Bug 104628

Summary:	UI: Gridlines in Writer nearly invisible
Product:	LibreOffice	Reporter:	Telesto <telesto>
Component:	Writer	Assignee:	Not Assigned <libreoffice-bugs>
Status:	RESOLVED DUPLICATE
Severity:	normal	CC:	cno, heiko.tietze, ilmari.lauhakangas, marcoagpinto, xiscofauli
Priority:	medium
Version:	5.2.2.1 rc
Hardware:	All
OS:	All
See Also:	https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48245
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Description Telesto 2016-12-13 10:19:44 UTC

Description:
Grindlines are nearly invisible in Writer

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open Writer.
2. Enable View -> Grid and helplines -> Display Grid
3 Compare grid visibility with grid in Draw or Impress

Actual Results:  
Grid is nearly invisible

Expected Results:
Grid should be more noticeable


Reproducible: Always

User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
Found in
Version: 5.4.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: ba6b35fc68a01aff72b39eb7809bacb326068668
CPU Threads: 4; OS Version: Windows 6.19; UI Render: default; 
TinderBox: Win-x86@39, Branch:master, Time: 2016-12-13_06:07:39
Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL); Calc: CL

and in
Versie: 5.2.2.1 
Build ID: 3c2231d4aa4c68281f28ad35a100c092cff84f5d
CPU Threads: 4; Versie besturingssysteem:Windows 6.2; UI Render: standaard; 
Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL); Calc: CL




User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0

Comment 1 Heiko Tietze 2016-12-16 07:26:16 UTC Comment hidden (no-value)

Just CC'ing to the ux mailinglist

Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2016-12-19 16:25:44 UTC

The only difference is that gridlines in Impress/Draw have slightly larger dots at the intersections. Keep also in mind that the visibility depend on the zoom factor and that Writer is not a drawing application that needs those guidance.

In my opinion it is a WFM. Other opinions?

Comment 3 Telesto 2016-12-19 18:06:37 UTC

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> The only difference is that gridlines in Impress/Draw have slightly larger
> dots at the intersections. Keep also in mind that the visibility depend on
> the zoom factor and that Writer is not a drawing application that needs
> those guidance.
> 
> In my opinion it is a WFM. Other opinions?

The functional need for gridlines is nearly zero, I guess. But if the option is offered it should be useful in someway. And it isn't in my opinion. The fun of the zoomfactor is that it's working the other way around. The grid is only visible after zooming out out, and not zooming in ;-).

It's only qualitatively inconsistent. But I don't mind setting it to WFM.

Comment 4 Cor Nouws 2016-12-19 19:48:52 UTC

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> The only difference is that gridlines in Impress/Draw have slightly larger
> dots at the intersections.

Then maybe it can be an easy hack?

> Keep also in mind that the visibility depend on
> the zoom factor and that Writer is not a drawing application that needs
> those guidance.

The higher the zoom value, the smaller dots.

Comment 5 Telesto 2017-09-30 08:18:44 UTC

*** Bug 112760 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Comment 6 Heiko Tietze 2017-09-30 20:21:43 UTC

After this issue has been filed again we should care more. In bug 112760 it's suggested to bind the dot size to the zoom factor but perhaps we better go with the number and use the minor ticks of the ruler with some multiplication factor. Plus, when the dot gets a little bit more space it wouldn't hurt too much. Could imagine that 1px is not so easy to spot on hires displays, btw.

So this needs a dev evaluation now rather than ux.

Comment 7 Buovjaga 2018-05-01 13:04:01 UTC


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 89544 ***