Bug 119436

Summary: Calc Menubar: link to external data sheet or data menu
Product: LibreOffice Reporter: andreas_k <kainz.a>
Component: CalcAssignee: andreas_k <kainz.a>
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX    
Severity: normal CC: kainz.a, libreoffice-ux-advise, miguelangelrv, thomas.lendo, xiscofauli
Priority: medium    
Version: unspecified   
Hardware: All   
OS: All   
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Bug Blocks: 91820    
Attachments: Link to External Data in Sheet or Data Menubar Section

Description andreas_k 2018-08-23 05:39:32 UTC
Created attachment 144379 [details]
Link to External Data in Sheet or Data Menubar Section

Link to external data is in Calc -> Menubar -> Sheet section. My question is should it stay there or move it to Data section.

In current master the function is not available so I have to remove the functionality anyway.
Comment 1 m_a_riosv 2018-08-23 10:03:29 UTC
Sorry, I don't want look angry, but design team did what they considered one or two years ago, IMHO it's their field what to do with this matter.

What I don't appreciate it's change the menus every couple of versions, and curiously there is always a new reason to change them again.

Maybe we can consider think twice do one, doing the stuffs in a systematic way in long term, we are not anymore in the early days of LibreOffice, when take the 
project ahead was the primary.

Like example, for those helping users in ask and other places, this changes are really annoying, how many answers became obsoletes?
Comment 2 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2018-08-23 13:00:47 UTC
I just wanted to say that I concur with Miguel Ángel.
Comment 3 andreas_k 2018-08-23 13:09:30 UTC
Than l will bring back the action to where it is in 6.1 and close the bug.

Thanks for the feedback. And only for Information. I am happy that libreoffice is that polished. I will not move actions in calc menubar around. Maybe l found new commands that should be available also in the menubar but I know now that calc is in a good shape.
Comment 4 Xisco Faulí 2018-08-25 15:29:05 UTC
I guess we can remove the needsUXEval now...
Comment 5 Thomas Lendo 2018-08-27 22:23:14 UTC
Andreas, I can't find the menu item "Link to external data" in any Calc menu in the current 6.2 master from 3 days ago. Was it removed?
Comment 6 andreas_k 2018-08-30 09:46:56 UTC
.uno:InsertExternalDataSource

should it be moved to data (as it is called insert ... data ...) or as it was to sheet?
Comment 7 m_a_riosv 2018-08-30 17:27:31 UTC
It has always been with the other sheet Insert..., when they were in Insert or Sheet menu entry, those options also import data, for me it's better if they stay together.
Comment 8 andreas_k 2018-08-31 08:02:20 UTC
FYI 

the calc menubar update patch was reverted. I will discuss the change ideas first in BZ before I submit an patch. So please join the discussion on BZ.