Bug 130706

Summary: Drying Ink Feature
Product: LibreOffice Reporter: wichtigste_adresse
Component: LibreOfficeAssignee: Not Assigned <libreoffice-bugs>
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX    
Severity: enhancement CC: libreoffice-ux-advise, thomas.lendo
Priority: medium Keywords: needsUXEval
Version: 6.0.6.2 release   
Hardware: All   
OS: All   
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Crash report or crash signature: Regression By:
Bug Depends on:    
Bug Blocks: 107247    

Description wichtigste_adresse 2020-02-16 11:31:33 UTC 
Description:
I have been working on a large document for a while. So the text contains portions that are older, some less old, some rather new and some that I wrote in the very session I am currently in. 

I sometimes wish to know when I wrote a specific portion of the text. Reasons for this can be: I want to find out what I was thinking at the time, what happened in my environment, I may want to know if a certain portion of the text has changed many times because I cannot seem to find the right words, I may want to know if I have to review a thing that I have not reviewed in a long time, etc. 

Now, it would really help if I could know simply by looking at the text, like it used to be with drying ink on a piece of paper or parchment. For instance, older letters could fade into a brighter shade of grey and if you hover over the portions of text, a popup window could tell you the date and time when you wrote the letters. 

That would be really neat. I have not found any word processor so far that could do that automatically. So far I have been working with the compare function and with several versions of the same document, but this process is very cumbersome. I give away that idea. I think I cannot be the only one who thought of that. I would be grateful for any hints how I could get a feature like that. 

Actual Results:
I have been working on a large document for a while. So the text contains portions that are older, some less old, some rather new and some that I wrote in the very session I am currently in. 

I sometimes wish to know when I wrote a specific portion of the text. Reasons for this can be: I want to find out what I was thinking at the time, what happened in my environment, I may want to know if a certain portion of the text has changed many times because I cannot seem to find the right words, I may want to know if I have to review a thing that I have not reviewed in a long time, etc. 

Now, it would really help if I could know simply by looking at the text, like it used to be with drying ink on a piece of paper or parchment. For instance, older letters could fade into a brighter shade of grey and if you hover over the portions of text, a popup window could tell you the date and time when you wrote the letters. 

That would be really neat. I have not found any word processor so far that could do that automatically. So far I have been working with the compare function and with several versions of the same document, but this process is very cumbersome. I give away that idea. I think I cannot be the only one who thought of that. I would be grateful for any hints how I could get a feature like that. 

Expected Results:
I have been working on a large document for a while. So the text contains portions that are older, some less old, some rather new and some that I wrote in the very session I am currently in. 

I sometimes wish to know when I wrote a specific portion of the text. Reasons for this can be: I want to find out what I was thinking at the time, what happened in my environment, I may want to know if a certain portion of the text has changed many times because I cannot seem to find the right words, I may want to know if I have to review a thing that I have not reviewed in a long time, etc. 

Now, it would really help if I could know simply by looking at the text, like it used to be with drying ink on a piece of paper or parchment. For instance, older letters could fade into a brighter shade of grey and if you hover over the portions of text, a popup window could tell you the date and time when you wrote the letters. 

That would be really neat. I have not found any word processor so far that could do that automatically. So far I have been working with the compare function and with several versions of the same document, but this process is very cumbersome. I give away that idea. I think I cannot be the only one who thought of that. I would be grateful for any hints how I could get a feature like that. 


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
I have been working on a large document for a while. So the text contains portions that are older, some less old, some rather new and some that I wrote in the very session I am currently in. 

I sometimes wish to know when I wrote a specific portion of the text. Reasons for this can be: I want to find out what I was thinking at the time, what happened in my environment, I may want to know if a certain portion of the text has changed many times because I cannot seem to find the right words, I may want to know if I have to review a thing that I have not reviewed in a long time, etc. 

Now, it would really help if I could know simply by looking at the text, like it used to be with drying ink on a piece of paper or parchment. For instance, older letters could fade into a brighter shade of grey and if you hover over the portions of text, a popup window could tell you the date and time when you wrote the letters. 

That would be really neat. I have not found any word processor so far that could do that automatically. So far I have been working with the compare function and with several versions of the same document, but this process is very cumbersome. I give away that idea. I think I cannot be the only one who thought of that. I would be grateful for any hints how I could get a feature like that.
Comment 1 Timur 2020-02-21 21:36:15 UTC 
I'm open to be ideas and thinking and in favor of confirming an issue it would ever be beneficial to group of users. But not at the cost of disrupting basic functions. 
This would complicate ubiquitous use of text processor, to have text. 
And this is achievable with separate function of track changes. 
Not as handy as drying ink, but sufficient enough to show dates. 

Actually, I reported a bug long ago to make it easier to change user name in LO in order to have different changes. 
So in addition to simple changes with single user, where you can see dates, you could change user names and set some modes or moods or weather or whatever.
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2020-02-24 08:57:56 UTC 
(In reply to wichtigste_adresse from comment #0)
> like it used to be with drying ink on a piece of paper or parchment...

If you read ancient parchments but me has to organize the desk. Older papers go to the drawer, recent to the top etc. And while your example might be not perfect I can follow the idea of a timestamp when the addition/change was made.

And perhaps the versioning is what you are looking for [1]. However, do not use it now. It has many issues (see bug 107247), in particular everything is saved not just the difference.

[1] https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/shared/guide/redlining_versions.html?DbPAR=SHARED#bm_id3154230
Comment 3 Timur 2020-02-24 10:25:40 UTC 
Excuse me, Heiko, but you put New, why, for what exactly to be done and how?
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2020-02-24 10:43:56 UTC 
(In reply to Timur from comment #3)
> Excuse me, Heiko, but you put New, why, for what exactly to be done and how?

Confirming the request and to keep the valuable use case; eventually we should change the summary.
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2022-01-13 13:20:24 UTC 
The topic was on the agenda of the design meeting but didn't receive further input.  And actually we do have such a feature with the versioning (File > version), which saves a full copy with every save operation. Not ideal, admitted, but no need for another feature.