Bug 132469

Summary:	Clear Direct Formatting char does not work
Product:	LibreOffice	Reporter:	TorrAB
Component:	Writer	Assignee:	Not Assigned <libreoffice-bugs>
Status:	RESOLVED NOTABUG
Severity:	normal	CC:	aron.budea, dgp-mail, libreoffice-ux-advise
Priority:	medium
Version:	6.4.3.2 release
Hardware:	All
OS:	All
See Also:	https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132702
Whiteboard:
Crash report or crash signature:		Regression By:
Bug Depends on:
Bug Blocks:	107318
Attachments:	file with 2 words formatted differently

Description TorrAB 2020-04-27 17:45:27 UTC

Description:
In fmtChClr.odt, parag has style Default, where default font has no fontEffects. Select ‘entre’, hit ^m (or Format>Clear Direct Formatting): no change; colour and Hidden effects remain. Why?


Steps to Reproduce:
In fmtChClr.odt, parag has style Default, where default font has no fontEffects. Select ‘entre’, hit ^m (or Format>Clear Direct Formatting)


Actual Results:
no change

Expected Results:
colour and Hidden effects should disappear: chars should become ‘normal’


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
none

Comment 1 Aron Budea 2020-04-27 19:27:38 UTC

Where is fmtChClr.odt?

Comment 2 TorrAB 2020-04-28 13:26:53 UTC

Created attachment 160024 [details]
file with 2 words formatted differently

Ooops! Sorry I forgot the attachment.

Comment 3 Aron Budea 2020-04-29 01:33:22 UTC

I can only see one word in the sample: potentiel.
Is this the correct sample?

Comment 4 TorrAB 2020-04-30 14:47:41 UTC

(In reply to Aron Budea from comment #3)
> I can only see one word in the sample: potentiel.
> Is this the correct sample?

Please check
 Tools/Options/LibreOffice Writer/Formatting Aids: display> [X] Hidden characters

Comment 5 Dieter 2020-05-03 16:10:45 UTC

I confirm it with

Version: 7.0.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
Build ID: b8fb7ecd9cdbe1898c41eaecd9894df8e8f01e25
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 18363; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win; 
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI-Language: en-GB
Calc: threaded

Regarding to LO Help[1] Clear Direct formatting should remove Character Styles. 'Entre has character style "Comment Char" so I would expect, that Clear Direct Formatting would change this.

So I would consider this as a bug (=> NEW) but to be sure, I add Design-Team (perhaps wrong information in LO Help)

Comment 6 Dieter 2020-05-03 16:15:11 UTC

(In reply to Dieter from comment #5)
> Regarding to LO Help[1] Clear Direct formatting should remove Character
> Styles.

[1] https://help.libreoffice.org/7.0/en-GB/text/shared/01/05010000.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN

Comment 7 Heiko Tietze 2020-05-04 11:31:49 UTC

(In reply to Dieter from comment #5)
> 'Entre has character style "Comment Char"
> Regarding to LO Help[1] Clear Direct formatting should remove Character Styles.

And since "Entre" has no direct formatting nothing happens. Clear direct formatting does not apply to character style. => NAB

See also bug 128960, bug 78371, bug 118969 and other. The actual problem is that we need better insights to the document structure. There is a proposal at https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2019/11/05/proposal-to-conveniently-highlight-and-inspect-styles-in-libreoffice-writer/

Comment 8 Dieter 2020-05-05 07:17:34 UTC

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)
> Clear direct formatting does not apply to character style. => NAB

Heiko, so LO Help is wrong here: "Removes direct formatting and formatting by character styles from the selection." https://help.libreoffice.org/7.0/en-GB/text/shared/01/05010000.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN

Comment 9 Heiko Tietze 2020-05-05 07:49:59 UTC

(In reply to Dieter from comment #8)
> (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)
> > Clear direct formatting does not apply to character style. => NAB
> 
> Heiko, so LO Help is wrong here: "Removes direct formatting and formatting
> by character styles from the selection."
> https://help.libreoffice.org/7.0/en-GB/text/shared/01/05010000.
> html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN

Yes, Clear DF clears only DF. Think it's worth a ticket against documentation.

Comment 10 Dieter 2020-05-05 08:15:28 UTC

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9)
> Yes, Clear DF clears only DF. Think it's worth a ticket against
> documentation.

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