Bug 137712

Summary: Location of Page Properties and Draw; Page or Format
Product: LibreOffice Reporter: Telesto <telesto>
Component: DrawAssignee: Not Assigned <libreoffice-bugs>
Status: RESOLVED INVALID    
Severity: normal CC: libreoffice-ux-advise, vsfoote
Priority: medium Keywords: needsUXEval
Version: 7.1.0.0.alpha0+   
Hardware: All   
OS: All   
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Description Telesto 2020-10-23 19:51:26 UTC 
Description:
Location of Page Properties and Draw; Page or Format

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open Draw
2. Page properties are under 'Page' Properties

Actual Results:
They location makes sense..however all other applications use Format menu. And I get confused pretty often. 

Expected Results:
Page Properties should move to Format Properties. Similar to Impress which has they most in common (and in line with Writer/Calc)

And call it 'Page Properties' Not simply properties. Even though - in the current case - this follows from they menu name. 


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
Version: 7.1.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
Build ID: 94e6e140491de31c0788c91af855a75a3bb12709
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL); UI: en-US
Calc: CL
Comment 1 Telesto 2020-10-23 19:53:11 UTC 
Don't look for some prior topic about this.. I there likely is. But for evaluation purposes: I still struggle :-). Especially if you also work with they other applications within the suite.
Comment 2 V Stuart Foote 2020-10-24 15:08:02 UTC 
No, repositioning the Properties was done with the main menu reorganization. A function of applicable scope. 

Page -> Properties
Slide -> Properties

You'll note that on Impress applicable to the Slide object, on Draw it is the  Page object but that the layout is consistent (the Properties is not on the Format menu) and controls the specific page or slide of the ODF document.

On Writer it is Format -> 'Page style' as it is linked to Paragraph style handling and other configuration of the entire ODF Text document

On Calc it is Format -> Page (actually also page style), though one could argue to place it on the Sheet menu. But like Writer it configures layout of the entire Spreadsheet as a document.
Comment 3 Telesto 2020-10-24 18:18:09 UTC 
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2)
> No, repositioning the Properties was done with the main menu reorganization.
> A function of applicable scope. 
> 
> Page -> Properties
> Slide -> Properties
> 
> You'll note that on Impress applicable to the Slide object, on Draw it is
> the  Page object but that the layout is consistent (the Properties is not on
> the Format menu) and controls the specific page or slide of the ODF document.
> 
> On Writer it is Format -> 'Page style' as it is linked to Paragraph style
> handling and other configuration of the entire ODF Text document
> 
> On Calc it is Format -> Page (actually also page style), though one could
> argue to place it on the Sheet menu. But like Writer it configures layout of
> the entire Spreadsheet as a document.

I think I made a mistake when looking at Impress. It's indeed the same compared to Draw. Maybe bad

Lets downsize the scope and stick to 'naming'. 

Must it be 'Properties'. "Page Properties" and "Slide Properties" would be bit clearer. Yes, it's might be obvious. However keep in mind you 'don't add' Page or Slide before all of the items in the menu. So pretty inconsistent. And doesn't affect the size of the menu. And not saying harm done by a possible repeat.