Bug 143433

Summary:	When inserting a FOOTNOTE or ENDNOTE, allow user to chose an alternative anchor character style
Product:	LibreOffice	Reporter:	R. Green <greenandpleasant2000-support>
Component:	Writer	Assignee:	Not Assigned <libreoffice-bugs>
Status:	RESOLVED WONTFIX
Severity:	enhancement	CC:	libreoffice-ux-advise, mikekaganski, walt.tuvell
Priority:	medium	Keywords:	needsUXEval
Version:	unspecified
Hardware:	All
OS:	All
See Also:	https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136554 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145239
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Bug Blocks:	113072

Description R. Green 2021-07-19 10:35:20 UTC

Version: 7.1.3.2 / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 47f78053abe362b9384784d31a6e56f8511eb1c1
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 5.4; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8); UI: en-GB
Calc: threaded

This came up as a possible suggestion in Bug 136554.

Currently, when the user inserts a FOOTNOTE or an ENDNOTE, a default anchor character style is automatically applied.

This is sufficient for many users but doesn't cover all cases. For example, when using traditional typographic Footnote symbols (*, †, ‡, §, **, †† etc.), IME, you need to use a separate character style for the asterisks to ensure that the size is comparable to the other symbols.

To allow for this I would suggest adding an "Anchor character style" option to  "Insert > Footnote and Endnote > Footnote or Endnote," so that the user can chose a non-default style if needed.

The other menu and toolbar opotions would be unaffected: they would cointinue to add a footnote / endnote with the default style as before.

Comment 1 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2021-07-19 12:52:41 UTC

I assume this needs design input, but I just wanted to flag that it is possible to right-click on the footnote/endnote character, select "Footnotes and Endnotes" (or got to "Tools > Footnotes and Endnotes"), and change the styles to any style available. I assume the issue R. Green describes here is that it is not possible to have different styles for different footnotes or different endnotes, right?

Comment 2 R. Green 2021-07-19 19:01:28 UTC

(In reply to stragu from comment #1)
>I assume the issue R. Green describes here is that it is not possible to
>have different styles for different footnotes or different endnotes, right?
Correct.

Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2022-05-30 14:34:33 UTC

The auto-numbering for footnotes has it limits. If varying CS are needed you can always add symbols manually. So besides the awkward workflow per Tools > F&E to modify Insert > Footnote my take is WF.

Alternatively we could change the asterisk as suggested in bug 145239. The problem  with U+1F7B6 is that not all fonts can show this symbol. 

What has room for improvements is the indication of CS in the Stylist. Meaning if the footnote anchor is selected I expect the respective CS to change. Does not happen. And you cannot change the CS on one footnote. Don't remember what ID this ticket was.

Mike, what do you think about WF?

Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2022-06-02 13:38:30 UTC

Varying CS contradicts the idea of autonumbering where numbers have a reliable sequence. We better solve the double superscripted asterisk with a special rule (see also bug 145239). => WF