Bug 160514

Summary:	Usability of accessibility check (Alt+7)
Product:	LibreOffice	Reporter:	Ulrich Windl <u20230201>
Component:	Writer	Assignee:	Not Assigned <libreoffice-bugs>
Status:	NEW ---
Severity:	normal	CC:	buzea.bogdan, ilmari.lauhakangas, m.weghorn, u20230201
Priority:	medium
Version:	7.6.6.3 release
Hardware:	x86 (IA32)
OS:	Windows (All)
Whiteboard:
Crash report or crash signature:		Regression By:
Bug Depends on:
Bug Blocks:	154929
Attachments:	Screenshot showing the results of accessibility checking Test Document with accessibility issues reported

Description Ulrich Windl 2024-04-03 22:40:41 UTC

Description:
The usability of the accessibility check is terrible IMHO:
In the separate frame where the issues are listen one has to press the RIGHT mouse button on the links to see the targets in the text area; using the normal left mouse button seems to do nothing!

* The check complains if a hyperlink is rendered as the hyperlinks itself; however specifically for printed media that makes a lot of sense.

* The check complains about "empty lines", but the links seem to address no target; *where are those empty lines?*

* For a formula object it complains about the lack of "alt text"; shouldn't the formula editor create that automatically? Having an "alt text" like "Formula 2" would not be helpful.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Have some "normal" text document
2. Open the  accessibility check (Alt+7) window


Actual Results:
Most messages are useless or not helpful.

Expected Results:
The checks should help the user to fix real problems.


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
Version: 7.6.6.3 (x86) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: d97b2716a9a4a2ce1391dee1765565ea469b0ae7
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19045; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: de-DE
Calc: threaded

Comment 1 Ulrich Windl 2024-04-03 22:42:26 UTC

Created attachment 193475 [details]
Screenshot showing the results of accessibility checking

Comment 2 Haris 2024-04-05 00:06:52 UTC

Hi Ulrich Windl,

I have no issues clicking on the hyperlinks to see the targets in the text area, I can use both the left mouse and right mouse buttons. I'm also not seeing any of the hyperlink and formula object complaints. Can you please attach a sample document that demonstrates the complaints shown in the screenshot?

Comment 3 Ulrich Windl 2024-04-05 21:29:22 UTC

Created attachment 193523 [details]
Test Document with accessibility issues reported

For this test document only right-clicking on the links works; left-clicking does nothing.

Comment 4 Haris 2024-04-11 21:26:20 UTC

Thank you Ulrich for providing the sample document. Using the sample document attached and retesting the issue on a different document, I can confirm that the bug is still present in

Stable Build
Version: 24.2.2.2 (AARCH64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: d56cc158d8a96260b836f100ef4b4ef25d6f1a01
CPU threads: 10; OS: macOS 14.1.2; UI render: Skia/Metal; VCL: osx
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

Master/Daily Build
Version: 24.8.0.0.alpha0+ (AARCH64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: c4023d3ec604abfff38be2053e2989c7ec2ba8c1
CPU threads: 10; OS: macOS 14.1.2; UI render: Skia/Metal; VCL: osx
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

I'm able to replicate all your issues aside from the right and left mouse button. Have you tried using your trackpad instead of your mouse? When I right and left click on my trackpad, both the right and left clicks work.

Comment 5 Buovjaga 2024-04-18 05:44:03 UTC

There has to be only a single issue per report. Please correct the summary to be about a single issue and create new reports for any other issues. As others can't see your mouse issue, better to test it with 24.2 before doing anything else as it might be fixed.