Hi, From the start center, when clicking the 'Templates' button to open 'Template manager', the templates folders are no longer displayed. The thumbnails of templates contained in a folder are displayed directly. Bernard
This change is intended. You can filter by category (which are folders) on the top. See https://akkidevblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/23/redesigning-the-template-manager/ for more details.
And it is awful when you really use templates and have more that one or two, for example in a professional use! It as worse as what MSOffice does. Is it the purpose?
(In reply to Ysabeau from comment #2) > And it is awful when you really use templates and have more that one or two, > for example in a professional use! Why? What exactly are you missing? You can still select the folders, but in a different place.
*** Bug 101131 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
See also discussion/comment in the Design ML thread http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Template-manager-tc4189237.html Setting this to enhancement and NEW as the Template manager GUI is doing what it was redesigned to do--handling additional directory locations is a new facet simply not implemented.
I saw: So you do not want to fix the issue and do not want to improve?
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #5) > handling additional directory locations is a > new facet simply not implemented. ??? Of course it is.
(In reply to Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) from comment #7) > > ??? Of course it is. @Samuel, Akshay So working on Windows with a current build of Master... A default installation will create share/template adding all bundled templates there, and a new default profile will create settings/user/template. But to add other "external" sources of templates it seems we have to Import (or Export), and only then gain access to the file management (OS or LibreOffice dialogs) and when imported. Problem is that a copy gets dropped into a category defined per user profile settings/user/template. As is, it seems like there no way to link directly to a centralized template store on a network share. The Paths dialog allows us to modify the Templates type and Add another location--but then that is limited to setting a default for newly templates. It seems like we are missing ability to set alternate paths for Templates. Or am I just not up to speed with the new UI?
There is no problem adding external sources. It works as before by adding the path in Tools > Options > LO > Paths. Assume you have: Folder "myoffice" with files "one.ott" and "two.ott" and folders "Home" and "Job". In folder "Home" is the file "three.ott" and the folder "Children". In folder "Job" is the file "four.otp". In folder "Children" is the file "five.otp". If you add the path "myoffice", then the files "one.ott" and "two.ott", which are directly in folder "myoffice", are shown in category "My Templates". The folders "Home" and "Job" are shown as category "Home" and "Job". The file "three.ott" is shown in category "Home" and the file "four.otp" is shown in category "Job". The folder "Children" and its content is not shown. That is the same behavior as it has always been. Nothing changed. Even foreign templates like *.dotx or *.pot are detected and usable and manually created folders in "myoffice" will be detected at least on the next start of LibreOffice. Only the start center is a little bit confusing, because it collects all templates of the selected kind from all categories. If you want to make a document on a template, which is not in a path, that is listed in Tool>Options>LO>Paths, that is possible too. Use File > Open. Then the document do not track on which template it is based. That too is not new, but is the same behavior as before. The "import" enables you to copy an external template into users/template and assign it in the same step to a category. That is convenient, because you do not need to access the "users" folder manually, which would expect too much of some users. So I really do not understand, what this issue is about.
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #9) > > So I really do not understand, what this issue is about. Originally, this issue is about the fact that the templates folders are no longer displayed in the Start Center. Samuel Mehrbrodt says "This change is intended". Ok, I note that. Bernard
The folders will be available in a similar fashion as in the template manager with a search field and a drop down menu for folders/categories.
Created attachment 126540 [details] The problem and a suggestion... See the png file to understand all the problem, and a solution of what the template manager should show from the star centre. I am quite sure that it shouldn't show files that have been deleted since ages and tmp files! And, yes, I verified several times that these files are no longer in the directory (nor in the dustbin or anything).
(In reply to Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) from comment #3) > (In reply to Ysabeau from comment #2) > > And it is awful when you really use templates and have more that one or two, > > for example in a professional use! > > Why? What exactly are you missing? You can still select the folders, but in > a different place. This a mess: if we store our templates in folders is to be able to find them more easily. If you have the bunch of templates (when you are a professional user of LibreOffice, you may have more than only one or two templates...) this windows is awful. Why not only show the templates manager? The will be better than the thing we no have.
(In reply to ribotb from comment #10) > Originally, this issue is about the fact that the templates folders are no > longer displayed in the Start Center. Samuel Mehrbrodt says "This change is > intended". Ok, I note that. OK, I get it now. I have changed the subject. BTW, a category can contain files from different folders. The old version had shown categories, not folders. And I agree, that the current solution needs improvement. Reasoning:(1) After you click on the item 'Templates' it takes a very long time, till all thumbnails are collected. For me it lasts 18 seconds! (2) Most of the templates, which come from the share folder, are irrelevant for common work. It would be sufficient to have a "All document types" item in the drop-down to get this total list on demand. (In reply to Ysabeau from comment #13) > If you have the bunch of templates (when you are a professional > user of LibreOffice, you may have more than only one or two templates...) > this windows is awful. Why not only show the templates manager? The will be > better than the thing we no have. Showing single template files has the advantage, that you can start with a single click. Therefore I do not think, that showing the template manager or showing categories (as before) would be better. But seeing this endless list of files (more than 190 in my case) is not good either. If we show thumbnails of template files, there need to be an additional way to determine, which templates are shown. If you like to start with the template manager, do not click on 'Templates' but use short cut key 'Ctrl+Shift+N' or the item 'Template Manager' from the drop-down list. (In reply to Ysabeau from comment #12) > I am quite sure that it shouldn't show files that have been deleted since > ages and tmp files! And, yes, I verified several times that these files are > no longer in the directory (nor in the dustbin or anything). I think, that is a bug. When clicking on 'Templates', the window should only contain templates, nothing else. But that it a different problem. Can you please write a separate bug report about that? It is really a bug, because for example I see file 'thumbs.db'.
I note another annoying 'stuff' in Start Center : templates are not displayed in alphabetical order. It seems that they are displayed in order of the folders which contain them. Bernard
*** Bug 101306 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Patch to make only templates show is here. https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/27929/ Patch for the template categories is here, but there is a bug in the code and awaits the dev mentor to look over it. https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/27534
Akshay Deep committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=f8f68042597cd38b8dab7413baadb093c4a01a00 tdf#101141 Show only template files in start center and template manager It will be available in 5.3.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Hello, Is this bug fixed? If so, could you please close it as RESOLVED FIXED?
Bug is not fixed in current master.
** Please read this message in its entirety before responding ** To make sure we're focusing on the bugs that affect our users today, LibreOffice QA is asking bug reporters and confirmers to retest open, confirmed bugs which have not been touched for over a year. There have been thousands of bug fixes and commits since anyone checked on this bug report. During that time, it's possible that the bug has been fixed, or the details of the problem have changed. We'd really appreciate your help in getting confirmation that the bug is still present. If you have time, please do the following: Test to see if the bug is still present with the latest version of LibreOffice from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ If the bug is present, please leave a comment that includes the information from Help - About LibreOffice. If the bug is NOT present, please set the bug's Status field to RESOLVED-WORKSFORME and leave a comment that includes the information from Help - About LibreOffice. Please DO NOT Update the version field Reply via email (please reply directly on the bug tracker) Set the bug's Status field to RESOLVED - FIXED (this status has a particular meaning that is not appropriate in this case) If you want to do more to help you can test to see if your issue is a REGRESSION. To do so: 1. Download and install oldest version of LibreOffice (usually 3.3 unless your bug pertains to a feature added after 3.3) from http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ 2. Test your bug 3. Leave a comment with your results. 4a. If the bug was present with 3.3 - set version to 'inherited from OOo'; 4b. If the bug was not present in 3.3 - add 'regression' to keyword Feel free to come ask questions or to say hello in our QA chat: https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa Thank you for helping us make LibreOffice even better for everyone! Warm Regards, QA Team MassPing-UntouchedBug
Created attachment 139631 [details] 101141_ ScreenPrintStartCenterTemplates in daily20180203
fixed in Version: 6.1.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: c7f74bbab4c666a8b3b865dbd58b3666f1f63052 CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.13; UI render: default; VCL: gtk2; TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@70-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2018-02-03_00:22:13 Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL.UTF-8); Calc: group thanks Akshay! (comment #18)
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #22) > Created attachment 139631 [details] > 101141_ ScreenPrintStartCenterTemplates in daily20180203 This isnt related to this bug.
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #24) > This isnt related to this bug. Oh, sorry. Can you please explain what I possibly understand wrong in this issue?
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #25) > Oh, sorry. > Can you please explain what I possibly understand wrong in this issue? The issue is about the template folders/categories that used to appear in the start center after clicking the templates button. This folder/file view was removed from the template manager when it was redesigned and replaced with the search/filter bar, but this bar never made its way into the start center.
Hi, In fact, for me, the only small and not annoying problem is that the templates are not displayed in alphabetical order when clicking on the Templates button. But it is very easy to retrieve templates by using the search/filters Bar. Bernard
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #26) > The issue is about the template folders/categories that used to appear in > the start center after clicking the templates button. This folder/file view > was removed from the template manager when it was redesigned and replaced > with the search/filter bar, but this bar never made its way into the start > center. In the Template Manager one can select Applications (Writer, Calc, ..) and Categories (separate folder names) In the Start Center one can only select Applications. Correct? (In reply to ribotb from comment #27) > In fact, for me, the only small and not annoying problem is that the > templates are not displayed in alphabetical order when clicking on the > Templates button. But it is very easy to retrieve templates by using the > search/filters Bar. I do not see that bar in the Start Center. Only in the Template Manager dialog. Correct? (I get somehow confused because the Summary is on the Start Center and the original description on the Template Manager :p )
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #28) > > > In fact, for me, the only small and not annoying problem is that the > > templates are not displayed in alphabetical order when clicking on the > > Templates button. But it is very easy to retrieve templates by using the > > search/filters Bar. > > I do not see that bar in the Start Center. Only in the Template Manager > dialog. Correct? > Sorry ! I was talking about the drop-down list displayed by the small arrow on the right of the Templates button. Bernard
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #28) > In the Template Manager one can select Applications (Writer, Calc, ..) and > Categories (separate folder names) > In the Start Center one can only select Applications. > Correct? Yes that is what this bug is about, you cant filder by categories/folders.
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #28) > In the Template Manager one can select Applications (Writer, Calc, ..) and > Categories (separate folder names) > In the Start Center one can only select Applications. > Correct? Yes!
Hi, In the Start Center I no longer use the templates button, Now, I first choose the application by using the drop-down list (displayed by the small arrow on the right of the Templates button). Bernard