Bug 101439 - Are improvements needed in how the Template manager orders the display of templates?
Summary: Are improvements needed in how the Template manager orders the display of tem...
Status: NEW
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Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
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5.2.0.4 release
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Template-Manager
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Reported: 2016-08-10 18:26 UTC by Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)
Modified: 2022-07-07 16:51 UTC (History)
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Description Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2016-08-10 18:26:55 UTC
So the new template manager seems to be sorting the templates based on the filename rather than template title which it displays.
Comment 1 Buovjaga 2016-08-12 18:40:58 UTC
Yeah.

Arch Linux 64-bit, KDE Plasma 5
Version: 5.2.0.4
Build ID: 5.2.0-1
CPU Threads: 8; OS Version: Linux 4.6; UI Render: default; 
Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI.UTF-8)
Comment 2 QA Administrators 2017-10-28 17:47:20 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 3 QA Administrators 2019-12-03 13:51:31 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 4 andreas_k 2020-05-01 09:17:03 UTC
I think first the template manager sort after category and than after filename.
Comment 5 sdc.blanco 2020-12-17 18:52:47 UTC
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #4)
> I think first the template manager sort after category and than after
> filename.
Almost....but slightly more complicated.

First shows "My Templates" category, then other categories (in ascending alphabetical order).

Within each category, sorted by template name (in ascending alphabetical order).

(NB. better to speak about "template name" or "template title"  - filename is used only if the template does not have a Title - but otherwise has no influence on sorting)

In relation to OP, maybe this bug is WFM -- because the templates are sorted after template title (but only within category).

Asking for UXEval -- about the more general (implicit) question about how to display templates in Template Manager.

(fwiw, given that user can filter by application and category, and every choice is appearing in alphabetical order, it seems pointless to do more.)
Comment 6 Heiko Tietze 2020-12-18 07:44:59 UTC
With the new list view mode, done by Vert, we can sort by all shown properties. That means not by filename, which was omitted for saving space and to avoid clutter.

Do we need sorting for the thumbnail view too? Would be a context menu but rather not when an item is selected- so hard to find. Maybe with the settings menu...
Comment 7 sdc.blanco 2020-12-18 11:03:05 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> That means not by filename, which was omitted for saving space
> and to avoid clutter.
imo, if idea of template manager is to "separate" its internal system from filesystem (which it is already does with category names), then that should be main reason not to sort by filename (even if there was space and it did not clutter), because filename has limited meaning in template manager.

> Do we need sorting for the thumbnail view too? 
1. The question is only relevant for the "All Categories" case -- because
 -- with all other category choices, templates are already sorted alphabetically, regardless of Filter choice (e.g., All Applications, Documents)

2. For the "All Categories" case and a specific Filter:  it might be meaningful/useful.

To see/understand situation:  choose Filter: Documents, Category: All Categories

where everything is sorted first by category, then alphabetical.  

Justifying use case (in Thumbnail view):  
  - You know template name, but cannot remember category, 
  - Choose Filter: Documents, Category: All Categories.  
  - Now you can easily search alphabetically.  
  - Can be preferred over listview in cases where templates have 
     definite colors or text or "appearance" -- because Template Manager 
     shows thumbnail preview, so one can start scanning by alphabet (to
     get roughly to right area), and then by appearance.

3. For "All Applications" and "All Categories" case: no opinion - but probably dubious value.  

Consider that all Presentation templates will be mixed in with spreadsheet and document templates in alphabetical order -- in which case -- it is likely that user applies Filter (i.e., previous case described in nr 2.) or a category (i.e., case described in nr. 1).
Comment 8 sdc.blanco 2022-03-04 15:43:15 UTC
Changing bug summary because (a) the OP is now WFM -- templates are shown according to template title, not filename, and (b) the question has been generalized to whether any improvements are needed in the ordering or presentation of template display in the template manager.