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Bug 102346 - Formatting Marks: Visual difference for hidden text
Summary: Formatting Marks: Visual difference for hidden text
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
5.3.0.0.alpha0+
Hardware: All All
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Assignee: Not Assigned
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Blocks: Formatting-Mark Font-Effects
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Reported: 2016-09-22 02:50 UTC by Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)
Modified: 2017-05-08 21:37 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Attachments
clip of dot underline indicator for exposed hidden text (87.92 KB, image/png)
2017-05-08 21:37 UTC, V Stuart Foote
Details

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Description Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2016-09-22 02:50:09 UTC
Presently there is no difference between regular text and hidden text when enabling formatting marks. MS Word uses dotted underlines to highlight hidden text.
Comment 1 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2016-09-22 04:18:46 UTC
Initially i thought that we could highlight the hidden text with the color used for formatting marks, but that would overwrite the original text color.
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2016-09-22 13:39:05 UTC
May I ask here about the use case for hidden text? Some requests recently but no clear scenario, AFAIS.
Comment 3 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2017-05-06 12:02:45 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> May I ask here about the use case for hidden text? Some requests recently
> but no clear scenario, AFAIS.

I not sure why people use hidden text, but i've read bug reports where hidden text is talked about. @Cor, @Stuart, @Regina, @Sophie: any thoughts on why people use hidden text?
Comment 4 Regina Henschel 2017-05-06 12:48:51 UTC
Writing exercises for my pupils, where I want to keep questions and answers in one document, but only print the questions. Or more general, to put information into the document, which should not be printed but be available to the author. People use a style with hidden text, or hidden sections or fields, and sometimes combine it with conditions.
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2017-05-08 19:03:23 UTC
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #4)
> Writing exercises for my pupils, where I want to keep questions and answers
> in one document, but only print the questions. Or more general, to put
> information into the document, which should not be printed but be available
> to the author. People use a style with hidden text, or hidden sections or
> fields, and sometimes combine it with conditions.

Okay, I understand the non-printable argument. Is there any other use case beyond that? I mean why is the text hidden in Writer when its relevant on the export whether or not those parts should be shown?
Comment 6 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2017-05-08 21:34:12 UTC
Seems i must have been confused with either 'Fields: Hidden Paragraphs' or 'Fields: Hidden Text' thinking it was hidden text, as the dotted underlines have been there since 3.3.
Comment 7 V Stuart Foote 2017-05-08 21:37:37 UTC
Created attachment 133169 [details]
clip of dot underline indicator for exposed hidden text

@Jay, *

Is this even valid? Hidden text is indicated when exposed by the formatting marks toggle.

On Windows 8.1 Ent 64-bit en-US with 
Version: 5.3.3.2 (x64)
Build ID: 3d9a8b4b4e538a85e0782bd6c2d430bafe583448
CPU Threads: 8; OS Version: Windows 6.29; UI Render: default; Layout Engine: new; 
Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: group

and with

Version: 5.4.0.0.alpha1+ (x64)
Build ID: d33e262a244f351febc9dbe605b05f76cb834eeb
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 6.29; UI render: GL; 
TinderBox: Win-x86_64@62-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2017-05-08_01:51:26
Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: CL

A screen clip of text with the "Hidden" Character dialog -> Font Effects attribute, shows with dotted underline when exposed with the Tools -> Options -> LibreOffice Writer -> Formatting Adis "Hidden text" check box enabled and Formatting Marks enabled.