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Bug 103909 - macOS: Start Center doesn't open on top - doesn't receive focus
Summary: macOS: Start Center doesn't open on top - doesn't receive focus
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
(earliest affected)
Hardware: All Mac OS X (All)
: high major
Assignee: Not Assigned
Keywords: bibisectRequest, regression
Depends on:
Blocks: Start-Center
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Reported: 2016-11-13 14:51 UTC by Telesto
Modified: 2020-04-29 09:12 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Crash report or crash signature:

Screencast of bug happening (8.49 MB, video/mp4)
2016-11-13 15:08 UTC, Telesto

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Description Telesto 2016-11-13 14:51:06 UTC
When starting LibreOffice for the first time (without profile) the Start Center won't open on top of a screen filling window. With an existing profile it doesn't happen.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Start a screen filling application (for example Safari)
2. Launch LibreOffice
3. Wait for Start Center to appear

Actual Results:  
Start Center doesn't appear (stays behind Safari window)

Expected Results:
Start Center opens on top

Reproducible: Always

User Profile Reset: YES

Additional Info:
Build ID: 0d75c63a307616b8327b1828d2ab973f4713822b
CPU Threads: 4; OS Version: Mac OS X 10.12.1; UI Render: default; Layout Engine: new; 
TinderBox: MacOSX-x86_64@49-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2016-11-12_00:32:05
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_12_1) AppleWebKit/602.2.14 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/10.0.1 Safari/602.2.14
Comment 1 Telesto 2016-11-13 15:08:31 UTC
Created attachment 128726 [details]
Screencast of bug happening
Comment 2 steve -_- 2016-11-13 15:36:40 UTC
1. remove LO user profile from
/Users/username/Library/Application Support/Libreoffice
2. start Safari, press ctrl ⌘ f to put safari to fullscreen
3. launch LO

no LO startcenter

confirmed → NEW
Comment 3 Alex Thurgood 2016-11-14 11:56:05 UTC
This is one of those bugs that just keeps coming back, especially in dev versions.
Comment 4 Alex Thurgood 2017-10-04 10:58:27 UTC
This now occurs on my LODev master builds that I have installed to /Applications, which uses an existing (LO5) profile, so the buggy behaviour is no longer limited to profile-less installations.

Build ID: 419ae5765ac562982f843adbfff32154e2559162
CPU threads: 4; OS: Mac OS X 10.13; UI render: default; 
Locale: fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); Calc: group
Comment 5 Alex Thurgood 2017-10-04 10:59:23 UTC
I forgot to add that it occurs also even in normal non-fullscreen mode...
Comment 6 Alex Thurgood 2017-10-04 11:02:06 UTC
No problem observed with

Build ID: 2b7f1e640c46ceb28adf43ee075a6e8b8439ed10
Threads CPU : 4; Version de l'OS :Mac OS X 10.13; UI Render : par défaut; 
Locale : fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); Calc: group
Comment 7 Tor Lillqvist 2018-05-24 12:38:03 UTC
About steve's comment, in the case of a full-screened Safari, it is on a completely separate desktop (also known as "space") even. Of course LibreOffice does not open in that desktop. Other applications don't either. That's what full-screen means; the application is on a desktop of itself.
Comment 8 Tor Lillqvist 2018-05-24 12:42:59 UTC
Anyway, in my own experience whether the Start Centre opens on top or not depends a lot on how I start LibreOffice. If I start it by double-clicking on the .app bundle in Finder (or two-finger-tap and choose "Open"), then it opens on top. Also if I start it from a Spotlight search.

But if I start it from a shell command line, either using the "open" command or by running the app bundle's Contents/MacOS/soffice executable, then indeed it does not start on top. But I assume starting from a shell command line is not very common; that is something only developers or QA people do.

How does this correspond to your experience?
Comment 9 Alex Thurgood 2018-05-24 14:03:49 UTC
(In reply to Tor Lillqvist from comment #8)

> How does this correspond to your experience?

With my current master daily build, if there is another non-fullscreen app window open (e.g. or I double-click on the icon, then it systematically displays behind the other app window and doesn't take the focus.

Comment 10 QA Administrators 2019-05-31 02:49:59 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 11 Roman Kuznetsov 2019-10-26 15:56:10 UTC
I'm a newby in macOS and don't know what is full screen mode here. I'll just write about my simple experiment:

1. Open Firefox
2. Press LO icon on dock bar
3. LO starts on top

Build ID: 706afd3e765e98489a2b43934a259626f9f0be01
CPU threads: 4; OS: Mac OS X 10.15; UI render: default; VCL: osx; 
Locale: ru-RU (ru_RU.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

possible WFM now?
Comment 12 Roman Kuznetsov 2019-10-26 16:00:31 UTC
and if I make FF to fullscreeen (when top menu and dock are hidden) and then move mouse point to end of screeen, then I see the dock, start LO by icon on dock and LO opens on top too (but I saw moving of the screen between different work places)
Comment 13 steve -_- 2020-04-29 09:12:01 UTC
macOS 10.15.4

Unable to reproduce. LibreOffice behaves as intended.

@Telesto: please re-open if I am mistaken.