Description: In Help menu, rename keyboard shortcut from ‘b’ “About LibreOffice” to ‘A’ “About LibreOffice” Thank you Version: 5.3.0.1 Build ID: 3b800451b1d0c48045de03b5b3c7bbbac87f20d9 CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Linux 4.4; UI Render: default; VCL: gtk2; Layout Engine: new; Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); Calc: group Steps to Reproduce: 1. Alt+H 2. Last item shows "About LibreOffice" with the 'b' underlined indicating keyboard shortcut is 'b' Actual Results: Keyboard shortcut is ‘b’ in “About LibreOffice”. Expected Results: Keyboard shortcut seems better as ‘A’ in “About LibreOffice” with 'A' being underlined. Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: No Additional Info: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0
Created attachment 130572 [details] screen shot showing current keyboard shortcut for "About LibreOffice"
Why? No conflict with the accelerator selected. It has been set to this accelerator for duration, not clear a change would serve any purpose. =-ref-= http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/GenericCommands.xcu#5375 and its unit test http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/configmgr/qa/unit/data.xcd#4552
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2) > Why? Hopefully this will provide some clear purpose why the change… Cleaning the LibreOffice code was criticised by some as a waste of time as it did not provide any extra functionality; however, long term it was the right decision… Helping people over the phone, you can ask them to press Alt+H then the letter ‘A’; same as other creditable programs… LibreOffice will be consistent with other programs with ‘A’ as the keyboard shortcut for “About...”. Examples of the these programs: Audacity http://www.audacityteam.org/ FileZilla https://filezilla-project.org/ Firefox https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ GIMP https://www.gimp.org/ Microsoft Office Nemo Linux Mint file manager Thunderbird https://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/ VLC https://www.videolan.org/ I’m sure you can find programs that do not have “A” as the keyboard shortcut; however, it seems that creditable programs do use “A”… Perhaps it is in the Human Interface Guidelines (HIG)… Thank you
I agree with Ovari when possible, shortcuts should be assigned to first letters. status NEW
I would be infavour of the change based on comment 3 and comment 4. Only downside is retranslation. :D @Heiko, @Adolfo: What about you?
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #5) > @Heiko, @Adolfo: What about you? Ideally the first letter should be the accelerator, so yes. /cite (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms971323.aspx) * Make access keys discoverable. Access keys must be easy for the user to find. Choose letters for access keys as close to the beginning of the label as possible — for example, Settings. The following are good letter choices: ** Letters at the beginning of the first or second word of the label. ** A distinctive consonant or a vowel in the label. ** Letters with wide widths, such as w, m, and capital letters. Avoid using letters that are difficult to see when they are assigned to access keys. These letters include: ** Letters with descenders, such as p, g, q, or y. ** Letters next to a letter with a descender. ** Letters that are only one pixel wide, such as i or l. * Avoid duplicating access keys. * Do not use access keys for default buttons or buttons in dialog box templates.
Patch is in - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/33646
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #7) > Patch is in - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/33646 Please leave the accelerator on the 'U' in: Check for ~Updates Thank you.
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #7) > Patch is in - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/33646 If you want consistency with Mozilla Firefox: ~Send Feedback... could become: ~Submit Feedback... Sounds a bit more professional too. Thank you
Yousuf Philips committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=8dc38dd9b132805191e0d20d00fb7559121fda15 tdf#105447 Move accelerator to first letters in Help menu It will be available in 5.4.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
(In reply to Óvári from comment #8) > Please leave the accelerator on the 'U' in: > Check for ~Updates @Stuart: Whats your take? If that is changed back, then '~User Guides' would also need to be changed to likely 'User ~Guides', but that would conflict with '~Get Help Online'.
(In reply to Commit Notification from comment #10) Version: 5.4.0.0.beta2 Build ID: 3cc1cdd8ee50f144e5514da51800a08119754d8f CPU threads: 2; OS: Linux 4.8; UI render: default; VCL: gtk2; Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); Calc: group Status --> VERIFIED
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