In the Notebookbar / Contextual groups, there is no icon for Copy and for Cut. That is inconsistent with the tabbed view and with the fact that there is a Paste icon.
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Idem in version 22.214.171.124.0.0+ and master.
Best regards. JBF
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It was a conscious decision. Ctrl+C and X is used by almost everyone, and to save space we don't expose them to the toolbar.
Actually a WONTFIX in my opinion but I keep the ticket open.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> It was a conscious decision. Ctrl+C and X is used by almost everyone, and to
> save space we don't expose them to the toolbar.
> Actually a WONTFIX in my opinion but I keep the ticket open.
Like Thibaut, I have worked with many "Benjamin-level" users, for whom Ctrl+C and X are completely alien concepts. Quoting below from http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg08166.html
"Some years ago I helped an older man to accomplish the needed computer-tasks to get his music businesses done. He never used the mouse right-click menu nor any keyboard shortcuts. Soto-say, he was a real live Benjamin user. When watching him write his songs on the computer, I saw that he used the copy & paste buttons quite a lot – I've also seen other average users use them. So I would argue that they are essential. And this is the problem, office applications have a lot of functionality that could be described as essential, even when focusing at Benjamin type of user."
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #3)
> Like Thibaut, I have worked with many "Benjamin-level" users, for whom
> Ctrl+C and X are completely alien concepts. Quoting below from
Though ctrl+c and ctrl+x maybe alien concepts to the lowest level of computer users, I wouldnt classify them to be in Benjamin's level, as Benjamin level users would be aware these basic shortcuts and/or the context menu. So with the limited space available in Heiko's design due to the large icons and labels, removal of copy and paste is the most logical choice.
We had a similar debate about how important the clipboard functions in the standard toolbars are in a survey we did in 2014. https://user-prompt.com/standard-toolbar-in-libreoffice/
"With regards to the clipboard buttons [...] about 70% agree with the removal of some or all clipboard buttons from the toolbar, though it was interesting that not all keyboard shortcut users agreed with the removal. When surveying other applications used by users on a regular basis, most of these applications don’t have clipboard buttons in their toolbars. Example of such applications include web browsers and file managers. There are also office suites that do not include these buttons in their toolbars, e.g. Apple iWork, Google Docs."
Thanks for reporting the issue. Since we have various implementations the concept we better stay as close as possible to the original concept. Setting WONTFIX.