Bug 106979 - Rename menu name "Sheet" in Calc to "Sheet & Cells"
Summary: Rename menu name "Sheet" in Calc to "Sheet & Cells"
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
5.4.0.0.alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: low enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsUXEval
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2017-04-05 18:22 UTC by Roman Kuznetsov
Modified: 2017-04-06 07:29 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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analisis quantity of sheet items and cells items in menu Sheet (78.69 KB, image/png)
2017-04-05 18:36 UTC, Roman Kuznetsov
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Description Roman Kuznetsov 2017-04-05 18:22:02 UTC
Description:
Rename menu name "Sheet" in Calc to "Sheet & Cells", because items in this menu there are for sheet and for cells. Name just "Sheet" does not fully show the essence of this menu now

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open Calc
2. See to menu "Sheet" and him items (and see my image from attach)


Actual Results:  
Name of this menu is just "Sheet"

Expected Results:
Name of this menu is "Sheet & Cells"


Reproducible: Always

User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:


User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:53.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/53.0
Comment 1 Roman Kuznetsov 2017-04-05 18:36:51 UTC
Created attachment 132357 [details]
analisis quantity of sheet items and cells items in menu Sheet
Comment 2 V Stuart Foote 2017-04-05 18:41:52 UTC
Do not see this as helpful in any appreciable sense.

While making labels needlessly long causes grief to the l10n folks that have to try to translate.

Leave it alone --> WONTFIX
Comment 3 Roman Kuznetsov 2017-04-05 19:06:48 UTC
I would like to hear opinion from members UI-team and people, that often use Calc
Comment 4 V Stuart Foote 2017-04-05 19:44:03 UTC
Sorry, but "Spread Sheets" are comprised of Rows and Columns of "Cells" -- a Cell is atomic and can not be reduced, but can be removed or added shifting adjacent cells in row or column on a sheet.

For the menu label "Sheet" is the most concise notation. Reality is the menu items your analysis highlights as cell and sheet are really ALL dealing with data presented on a sheet (although you categorization is wrong).

Again changing the label adds no contextual or functional benefit--but impedes the localization effort by forcing convoluted translations to fit the menu width.
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2017-04-05 20:24:52 UTC
(In reply to kompilainenn from comment #3)
> I would like to hear opinion from members UI-team and people, that often use
> Calc

Would Benjamin really struggle to find cell related functions when the top level is not perfectly clear? Don't think so. It would be the same for "File & Printing" or "Help and About"...
Comment 6 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2017-04-06 07:29:27 UTC
Please no… I don’t want to deal with another “inclusive” menu rename like the one that slapped “Slide/Page” to everything and made translations even longer and more awkward…