Bug 108696 - Add PDF type/quality drop down menu list to PDF export dialog
Summary: Add PDF type/quality drop down menu list to PDF export dialog
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Printing and PDF export (show other bugs)
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unspecified
Hardware: All All
: low enhancement
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Blocks: PDF-Export-File-Dialog
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Reported: 2017-06-22 16:18 UTC by Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)
Modified: 2017-06-24 12:57 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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MS PDF export (52.30 KB, image/png)
2017-06-22 16:18 UTC, Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)
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WordPerfect PDF export (19.57 KB, image/png)
2017-06-22 16:19 UTC, Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)
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iWork Pages pdf export (20.69 KB, image/png)
2017-06-23 10:10 UTC, Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)
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word and wordperfect pdf export options (106.45 KB, image/png)
2017-06-23 14:55 UTC, Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)
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Description Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2017-06-22 16:18:08 UTC
Created attachment 134212 [details]
MS PDF export

The PDF export filename dialog has no options in it other than being able to set the filename and when this dialog appears when a user clicks the 'Export as PDF' button in the standard toolbar, they dont get access to any of the options found in the File > Export dialog, so it would be useful to be able to set the type or quality of the exported PDF with a drop down menu list.

This drop down menu list should have options for hybrid pdf, archive pdf/a-1, as well as various compression settings for various uses (e.g. printing, online sharing).

A similar features is available both in MS Word and WordPerfect.
Comment 1 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2017-06-22 16:19:24 UTC
Created attachment 134213 [details]
WordPerfect PDF export
Comment 2 Cor Nouws 2017-06-22 20:15:03 UTC
along with some choices, then also offer "more .."
Comment 3 V Stuart Foote 2017-06-22 21:17:28 UTC
@Jay, not so sure we need or want to do this and that the current behavior is best. And that to control the configuration of the PDF use the menu entry, to take defaults (or current configuration) use the Export button.

The Toolbar button is linked to ".uno:ExportDirectToPDF" [1] and gets description from help as: "Exports the current document directly as PDF. No settings dialog is shown." [2] It opens an OS or LO native dialog "Export" with just the "PDF - Portable Document Format (.pdf)" filter.

+SID_DIRECTEXPORTDOCASPDF,6674,.uno:ExportDirectToPDF

While the Menu entry is linked to ".uno:ExportToPDF" no description, that opens the "PDF Options" dialog for configuration of the export filter, and then on export sends via the same OS or Native Export dialog with limited droplist.

Intentionally not passing through the dialog, believe we take the configuration of the last PDF export.

+SID_EXPORTDOCASPDF,6673,.uno:ExportToPDF

Point is, the Toolbar button is "intended" to be streamlined, while the menu entry is intended to provide full configuration.

=-ref-=
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/GenericCommands.xcu#4833

http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/GenericCommands.xcu#4819

http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sfx2/sdi/sfx.sdi#4729

http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/help/source/text/shared/02/07090000.xhp#38
Comment 4 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2017-06-23 10:10:02 UTC
Created attachment 134218 [details]
iWork Pages pdf export
Comment 5 Cor Nouws 2017-06-23 10:56:43 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #3)
> @Jay, not so sure we need or want to do this and that the current behavior
> is best. And that to control the configuration of the PDF use the menu
> entry, to take defaults (or current configuration) use the Export button.
> ....
> Intentionally not passing through the dialog, believe we take the
> configuration of the last PDF export.

Ah yes.
So it is not possible to do a simple comparison with what other applications do.
Do those have more advanced options too?
Comment 6 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2017-06-23 14:54:50 UTC
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #2)
> along with some choices, then also offer "more .."

We should have a dedicated button for this (bug 83392).

(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #3)
> @Jay, not so sure we need or want to do this and that the current behavior
> is best. And that to control the configuration of the PDF use the menu
> entry, to take defaults (or current configuration) use the Export button.

For users like Benjamin who normally do not access the menu, they will never discover the pdf export options dialog, but this also gives users like Eve who know about the options dialog easy access to modify the most useful options without having to open the options dialog.

> The Toolbar button is linked to ".uno:ExportDirectToPDF" [1] and gets
> description from help as: "Exports the current document directly as PDF. No
> settings dialog is shown." [2] It opens an OS or LO native dialog "Export"
> with just the "PDF - Portable Document Format (.pdf)" filter.

This doesnt change with what i'm proposing, as its a drop down menu list in the dialog similar to the 'version' drop down in the open file dialog.

> Intentionally not passing through the dialog, believe we take the
> configuration of the last PDF export.

We can have a menu item for 'default settings' which takes what was previously set in the pdf export dialog.

> Point is, the Toolbar button is "intended" to be streamlined, while the menu
> entry is intended to provide full configuration.

Adding a drop down to the dialog doesnt take away from its streamline behaviour.

(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #5)
> So it is not possible to do a simple comparison with what other applications
> do.
> Do those have more advanced options too?

Ye is is possible to compare, as both MS and WP have buttons in the dialog for more advanced pdf export features. MS calls the button 'Options...' and WP calls it 'Settings...'.
Comment 7 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2017-06-23 14:55:41 UTC
Created attachment 134231 [details]
word and wordperfect pdf export options
Comment 8 Cor Nouws 2017-06-23 15:46:37 UTC
 (In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #6)
> (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #2)
> > along with some choices, then also offer "more .."
> 
> We should have a dedicated button for this (bug 83392).

Please change the issue's summary accordingly.
OTOH, I see no good reason not to add 'more..' in the dialog.

> Adding a drop down to the dialog doesnt take away from its streamline
> behaviour.

I think so. But than the settings done in the options dialog, should have influence on the settings presented in the file dialog.
Comment 9 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2017-06-24 12:57:28 UTC
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #8)
> Please change the issue's summary accordingly.
> OTOH, I see no good reason not to add 'more..' in the dialog.

I changed the issue's summary before my last comment.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_activity.cgi?id=83392

> > Adding a drop down to the dialog doesnt take away from its streamline
> > behaviour.
> 
> I think so. But than the settings done in the options dialog, should have
> influence on the settings presented in the file dialog.

You think that it does or doesnt?

I'm assuming if a users goes the File > Export as PDF, then they dont likely need to see the drop down menu list.

Here is the list of drop down list entries from bug 83392, though the comments entry would have to wait for bug 77650 to be fixed.

Default Setting (settings found in the pdf options dialog)
Minimal Size (keeps the file size small and suitable for use online)
Standard Size (suitable for publishing)
For Archive (PDF/A-1a)
Hybrid PDF (embeds odf)
With Comments (includes comments)