When testing the notebookbar, one may easily get stuck with it without knowing how to go back.
Specifically, in the groupedbar compact there does not seem to be a way to switch to anything else, since: (i) no menus are shown; (ii) there does not seem a way to activate the menus; (iii) the view item in the compact groupedbar does not seem to include anything having to do with the notebookbar mode.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Activate notebookbar (View->Toolbar layout->Notebookbar)
2. Put notebookbar in Groupedbar compact mode (View -> Notebookbar -> Groupedbar compact)
3. Try to go back to the default toolbar layout.
Incidentally, the Notebookbar menu entry should probably not be shown unless the Notebookbar is active (but this should probably be reported independently).
The way to go back to the default toolbar is absent (or hard to discover ?)
There should be an easy way to re-activate menus and an easy way to go back to the default toolbar layout.
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The Menu "hamburger" is at the right edge of the compact groupedbar.
Click to toggle the main menu visible, change notebook bar mode there.
Reopening as the point is that it is not discoverable enough, then.
1) Icon almost identical to the one of text align justify (at least with kde integration)
2) No tooltip. Are users expected to click all buttons of the notebookbar to find the one to get the menus?
3) Not on the "View" region of the notebookbar. Conversely, the "View" region has an icon whose tooltip says "Shows or hides the menus [...] in writer and calc" which actually does not let you show the menu (since it enters and exists fullscreen mode, basically).
4) No mention of it in the online help.
5) Not consistent with the "standard" (i.e., not compact) groupedbar, where the button to get the menus back is pushed totally to the right, to separate it from the rest of the buttons.
Would be great if the menu button could be at least given a tooltip and pushed to the right as for the standard groupedbar
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1)
> The Menu "hamburger" is at the right edge of the compact groupedbar.
> Click to toggle the main menu visible, change notebook bar mode there.
I agree with V Stuart. Anyway, let's add the UX team here to hear their opinion
The feature is experimental and therefor not every aspect is perfect. Nevertheless I think a generic approach makes sense and I recommend to not only activate the menubar with F10 but also to show it when hidden. (Restore previous visibility when the focus goes somewhere else)
This solution could be an easyhack.
My intention was precisely to provide feedback so that it can be at the maximum possible quality when it comes out of experimental status.
The situation has improved meanwhile. So WFM.
However, the checkbox Menu > Menu bar is not working in master. And the idea of F10 temporarily showing the menu bar if hidden is worth to discuss too. So keeping the ticket open.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)
> The situation has improved meanwhile. So WFM.
> However, the checkbox Menu > Menu bar is not working in master. And the idea
> of F10 temporarily showing the menu bar if hidden is worth to discuss too.
> So keeping the ticket open.
As checkbox in Menu > Menubar work now on all implementations this can be closed. Fixed in LibreOffice 6.1