Bug 115740 - Writer Formatting Tabs from §-definition used In List of Literature are ignored
Summary: Writer Formatting Tabs from §-definition used In List of Literature are ignored
Status: RESOLVED NOTABUG
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
5.3.7.2 release
Hardware: All All
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Reported: 2018-02-15 09:40 UTC by Heinrich Hartl
Modified: 2018-03-08 14:03 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Attachments
small writer document for reproducing the bug and additional info (42.10 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2018-02-15 09:42 UTC, Heinrich Hartl
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Description Heinrich Hartl 2018-02-15 09:40:11 UTC
Description:
in attached demo document there is a bibliography that has shortnames of unequal length. I would like to have the bibliografic entries aligned. Therefore I inserted a Tab-character in the definition of the entry after the shortname for types used and I included a Tab at 3cm from left in the paragraph definition Literaturverzeichnis1. However
Problem:
You should see the desired alignment is not achieved.
More Details in attached demo.

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Open attached document
2.refresh the literature directory
3.See unaligned entries
4. reassign § to entries in literature directory
5.See aligned entries
Detailed testprocedure in demo document

Actual Results:  
mal formed literature directory

Expected Results:
proper formatting of literature directory


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
Version: 5.3.7.2 (x64)
Build-ID: 6b8ed514a9f8b44d37a1b96673cbbdd077e24059
CPU-Threads: 4; BS-Version: Windows 6.1; UI-Render: Standard; Layout-Engine: neu; 
Gebietsschema: de-DE (de_DE); Calc: group


User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:58.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/58.0
Comment 1 Heinrich Hartl 2018-02-15 09:42:12 UTC
Created attachment 139920 [details]
small writer document for reproducing the bug and additional info
Comment 2 Buovjaga 2018-03-07 10:08:15 UTC
It is not a bug, but a little mix-up.

Right-click the index - Edit index. In the Entries tab, for both Article and Book excerpt, click the T. Observe that the Tab position is 0. Set it to 3 cm.
Now everything is fine.

I noticed you had edited the paragraph style Bibliography 1 and set Tabs - Position of 3,00 cm.
Comment 3 Heinrich Hartl 2018-03-07 23:26:02 UTC
Hallo and thank you for checking.

However I still think there is a bug. Please note, that the composition of entries book excerpt and article both contain already a TAB after shortname: The TAB should push the following author information to the 3cm position. 
[][Ku][: ][T][][Au][, ][Ti][, ][Ja]
          ===
But this is achieved only after reassigning the § to the two lines in the index...
If it was not a bug, why should the entries change when I reassign the §?

I also tried deleting the TAB from the entries composition and reinserting the TAB in the same place to make sure that the TAB in the § was already set when inserting the TAB into the entry composition. But that failed too.
Comment 4 Buovjaga 2018-03-08 07:16:17 UTC
(In reply to Heinrich Hartl from comment #3)
> Hallo and thank you for checking.
> 
> However I still think there is a bug. Please note, that the composition of
> entries book excerpt and article both contain already a TAB after shortname:
> The TAB should push the following author information to the 3cm position. 
> [][Ku][: ][T][][Au][, ][Ti][, ][Ja]
>           ===
> But this is achieved only after reassigning the § to the two lines in the
> index...
> If it was not a bug, why should the entries change when I reassign the §?
> 
> I also tried deleting the TAB from the entries composition and reinserting
> the TAB in the same place to make sure that the TAB in the § was already set
> when inserting the TAB into the entry composition. But that failed too.

I don't understand what you are saying. The entries contained a TAB after shortname, but IT WAS ZERO. Like I said, change the tab stop position from zero to 3 cm in the [T] element.

This is the wrong way to do it: "you had edited the paragraph style Bibliography 1 and set Tabs - Position of 3,00 cm."
Comment 5 Heinrich Hartl 2018-03-08 13:58:32 UTC
Sorry for insisting on Bug, thanks for teaching me the facts. I was really blind because I thought to know everything about TAB and that these are part of §-style. 

I guess a better documentation could have kept me on the right path. I am willing to contribute efforts from my side to improve documentation.

I found the existing documentation on bibliography confusing, sometimes trivial frequently redundant and incomplete. 

To contribute towards a better documentation  I need advice on how to do so and also advice when it comes to find out details of the implemented functionality. Any hint is welcome, someone willing to be a tutor/supervisor would be perfect and probably save me time and effort otherwise spent with tedious and error prone researching. 

Assuming this is the right place to start the first thing I want to target is the help page addressed from the window labelled „Table of Contents, Index or Bibliography“ which is opened when inserting "Table of Contents and Index" -> "Table of Contents, Index or Bibliography ...".
Comment 6 Buovjaga 2018-03-08 14:03:39 UTC
You are very welcome to join the documentation team. I agree that it is often hard and frustrating to find information.

Here is the general doc team page:
https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/join-community/

This page explains a very easy way to contribute help content:
https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/join-community/update-help-contents/

Note the difference between help content vs. guide books: "It is concise and precise."

You are also welcome to evaluate the guide books: https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/

The Getting started book for 6.0 is just being finalised.

You can talk with the doc team coordinator Olivier Hallot (ohallot) through this channel:
https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-doc