in modul calc we find the menu-option "insert" and there the two field : "actual date" and "actual time".
both works fine, but there are additional shortcuts displayed, with are not working on German-based keybords (see pic).
Key: "Strg + ;" is not accessible, same for "Strg + Umschalt + ;".
Steps to Reproduce:
1. try it on german keybords
Shortcuts do not insert date or time
correct shortcuts or remove the wrong information
User Profile Reset: Yes
OpenGL enabled: Yes
that is not a new problem. In Germany we normally assign both fields to "Strg + ," and "Strg + Umschalt + ," - then this is the same behavior than Excel.
so: remove the information for the shortcut.
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Created attachment 141717 [details]
shortcut in German location - not accessable
LO 188.8.131.52.alpha1 Build-ID: cb47f0d320994e001bc38dc2ee9b7d957b15e6ab
CPU-Threads: 2; BS: Windows 6.1; UI-Render: Standard;
Gebietsschema: de-DE (fr_FR); Calc: CL
I find in Einfügen:Datum Ctrl+;
and Zeit Ctrl+Shift+;
Those are also the shortcuts defined in
Extra > Anpassen...: Tastatur
yes, thats right:)
But it is not possible to use this shortcuts on german keybord layout.
I attach a picture of a keyboard. You will see: to get the combination strg * ; you have to press the keys Strg + shift + ; - so this is different to what is expected - the listener will not act.
If you just use strg + , the internal cpode is different to the listener - it doesen´t work either.
So - to use the shortcuts in Germany with german keyboards we change by customer the internal keys to ctlr + , and ctrl + Schift + , - than everything works well (like excel).
Created attachment 141720 [details]
german keyboard layout
and I used for testing LO 184.108.40.206.alpha1 !!
Seen. I understand. Thank you for infos and sorry for the noise.
This seems to be a duplicate or at least related to : tdf#117239
Feel free to reopen it in case you think it's not.
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 117239 ***
does not have anything to do with bug # bug 117239 !
Please read careful the mentioned infos.
This case here is not a real technical bug, because the standard shortcuts are the same than for years.
But now it is a miss-information because the shortcuts are displayed in menu-items, so a lot of people will try this and it will not work using german keyboards. Then there is a problem with those users!
The easiest way to solve this problem: Do not display the shortcuts on both menu-entries.
If you want to change either the help-pages... fine. no priority.
But the menu-entries should be changed!
Or better but I believe more difficult: for a german localisation change the default shortcuts :)
Hi Thomas, maybe this report is already covered by bug 82117. Several bugs regarding English shortcuts for non-English keyboard layouts are open.
Setting back to Unconfirmed as it never had New status.
Indeed, it is covered by bug 82117. Set to RESOLVED DUPE of 82117.
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 82117 ***