Bug 118658 - Fill handle should be visible at the beginning of the row, when whole rows are selected
Summary: Fill handle should be visible at the beginning of the row, when whole rows ar...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Calc (show other bugs)
(earliest affected)
Inherited From OOo
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64) All
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
Keywords: needsDevAdvice
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Blocks: AutoFill
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Reported: 2018-07-10 05:38 UTC by Tyr Antilles
Modified: 2023-10-16 03:15 UTC (History)
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Description Tyr Antilles 2018-07-10 05:38:02 UTC
1. When selecting a group or rows or columns, there is no handle at the beginning of the row to drag them up or down.
2. Cursor border of the selected cell is always black, making it very hard to see on dark backgrounds and impossible to see on black background.

Here is a small video (600kb) that illustrates the problems:

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Select rows
2. Try to drag them down

Actual Results:
There is no handle. The handle is only at the end of the table.

Expected Results:
Have point (handle) to drag the entire rows / columns at the beginning of the row.

Reproducible: Always

User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
The second problem is even more important. Selection cursor being black is very hard to see on dark backgrounds. Normally it should become white if the selected cell is dark so it can be easily spotted.
Comment 1 Susan Gessing 2018-07-10 21:02:34 UTC
I agree with the suggested changes, but isn't this "bug" more of an enhancement request?
Comment 2 Tyr Antilles 2018-07-11 02:53:11 UTC
No, because in older versions of LibreOffice I remember they were working correctly. Both actually.
Comment 3 Tyr Antilles 2018-07-11 13:02:32 UTC
These issues appear in LO v. RC1 as well, just as described above.
Comment 4 Buovjaga 2018-07-17 17:05:12 UTC
(In reply to Tyr Antilles from comment #2)
> No, because in older versions of LibreOffice I remember they were working
> correctly. Both actually.

I tried several older versions down to 3.3.0 and the fill handle was never visible when whole rows were selected.

Let's consult the UX team on how exactly the representation should change.

The black on black issue is reported as bug 108240
Comment 5 Tyr Antilles 2018-07-17 19:10:54 UTC
I tried too older LO versions and indeed the fill handle is always black on Win10. Still I am pretty sure I had it working correctly at some point in time with an older LO version, perhaps on Win XP or Win 7, or perhaps with some different display setup like different open GL or Direct X, not sure.
Comment 6 Heiko Tietze 2018-07-24 13:47:08 UTC
MS Excel shows the/antoher handle left of the first cell, also not a perfect solution since it has a very tiny hotspot. As a user I'd expect to be able to enlarge the column height at the leftmost static column but in case of a selection some means to increase everywhere. Drawback is that a (small) range selection wont work smoothly anymore with the enlarge-everywhere option together with the handle. So the question goes to the devs, what can we do?
Comment 7 QA Administrators 2019-10-13 02:33:35 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 8 Tyr Antilles 2019-10-14 05:02:11 UTC
Yes, both issues reported on the original post are still present in LO v.
Comment 9 QA Administrators 2021-10-14 03:47:10 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 10 Tyr Antilles 2021-10-15 17:48:59 UTC
I am using only LibreOffice as office suite, so I know it well. On the last version of LO at this time, LO v. x64, @2021.10.15 both issues are still here as reported on the original post.
Comment 11 QA Administrators 2023-10-16 03:15:04 UTC
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