Description: It seems that, with LO 6.1.5.2, in Writer you cannot ever have page numbering that starts at 2 (on the second page), that's to say, the first (title) page of the document having NO page number showing on it. As an experienced document writer, it just looks completely wrong and unnecessary to have '1' showing at the top of the title page (the latter page being the term I use for the very first page of the document, the page where the document's title is written at the top, with body text immediately below that title, the document then continuing with '2' being the second page, as you'd expect). Currently in Writer there are some special options for title pages (which I find dreadfully ambiguous, BTW) but they do not allow for this rather common and simple requirement. Another terrible annoyance is that if you delete or otherwise remove all existing page numbers and then you add just one page number, via say Insert > Page Number, that number gets added to ALL the pages in the document - which is a total nonsense! I've given up trying to get page numbering right in my Writer documents. I work with .doc documents, BTW, rather than the native file format. Sheet size A4. Instead, I now just set the page header to as small as possible and immediately below that I MANUALLY type the required page number. I normally choose to have the number at the top of the page and centred. At least that way I end up with sensible numbering. But of course it's rather ridiculous to have to separately and manually insert every single page number in a document. I'd like to see standard page numbering but with an option to omit the number on the first page. Although it may look like it, that's not covered by the special options in Format > Title Page. I've experimented with those settings endlessly to no avail. Steps to Reproduce: 1.None needed, really. Just follow my Description and you'll see what I mean. 2. 3. Actual Results: In Writer, go to Format > Page, and on the Page tab you'll see a dropdown menu for page numbering format. The nearest you find there to what's required in this instance is 1,2,3 etc, but that means you have to have '1' showing on the first, or title, page. Grrh! Expected Results: N.A. See my temporary workaround. Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: No Additional Info: See my description. I'm using an iMac running macOS Sierra 10.12.6.
I assume, you insert page number in header or footer: 1. Put cursor in footer on page 2 (same for header) 2. Choose "Format Footer" 3. Disable "Same context on first page" 4. Insert Pagenumber => I close this as RESOLVED WORKSFORME. Please change it back to UNCONFIRMED., if you don't agree.
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #1) > I assume, you insert page number in header or footer: > 1. Put cursor in footer on page 2 (same for header) > 2. Choose "Format Footer" > 3. Disable "Same context on first page" > 4. Insert Pagenumber > > => I close this as RESOLVED WORKSFORME. Please change it back to > UNCONFIRMED., if you don't agree. I'm afraid I don't agree. In 6.1.5.2 there's no direct Format Footer. You have to select Format > Page and then choose the Header or Footer tab. And yes, there there's a setting 'same content on first page'. But it doesn't work properly. That is, if you ensure that 'same content on first page' is unchecked and you insert '2' in, let's say, the header on the second page, you do indeed suppress '1' from appearing on the first page. However, '2' then appears on Page 3 and on all subsequent pages!! I shall have to change the status of this bug back from Resolved to Unconfirmed. (Not sure where and how to do that yet, so please bear with me). edit: Having returned to here, I've obviously found how to re-set the status back to Unconfirmed. This page numbering bug clearly needs further work.
(In reply to internalmemo from comment #2) > And yes, there there's a setting > 'same content on first page'. But it doesn't work properly. That is, if you > ensure that 'same content on first page' is unchecked and you insert '2' in, > let's say, the header on the second page, you do indeed suppress '1' from > appearing on the first page. However, '2' then appears on Page 3 and on all > subsequent pages!! I can't confirm that. I don't understand, why you insert '2' on the second page. You just have to choose Insert => Pagenumber Perhaps you could attach a document that shows the problem (only a document with some blak pages and the pagenumbers)
This works as designed, as Dieter has indicated. Version: 6.1.5.2 Build ID: 90f8dcf33c87b3705e78202e3df5142b201bd805 Threads CPU : 4; OS : Mac OS X 10.14.4; UI Render : par défaut; Locale : fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); Calc: group threaded "There is more than one way to skin a cat", as the saying goes. On the first page, set a page style, let's use the First/Title Page style. Type a title, then force a page break Right mouse button click on the First Page, then look at the page properties. Under the Page Management tab, you should see : Style : First (Title) Page Follow-on Style : Default Style Click on the Edit Style button at the end of the Follow-On Style entry, which opens an identical tabbed dialog to manage your follow-on style. Choose Footer (or Header, depending on where you want your page numbering). Click on Activate Footer. Leave the default ticked options (same content left/right), same content first page. Click on Apply, then OK. The dialog closes. Click on Apply and then OK again to close the initial page management dialog. Click on page 2, then insert a page number via Insert > Page Number. The number 2 is displayed. Force a manual page break and you will see a new page with the number 3 in the footer. No page numbering appears on the First/Title page. I have enclosed an ODT file that demonstrates this. Made with LO6152 as outlined above.
Created attachment 151061 [details] TestODT with no page numbering on first page, subsequent pages numbered from page 2
@Internammemo : Please also read this, if you haven't done so already : https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Page_Numbers If there is anything in that which is incorrect, please let us know so that we can indicate it to the help page documentation team. However, if you do that, then open a new bug report and select Documentation as the component.
I would also suggest that you download and read Bruce Byfield's book called "Designing with LibreOffice", available as a free PDF/ODT download from here: http://designingwithlibreoffice.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/DWL_fullbook.pdf
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #3) > (In reply to internalmemo from comment #2) > > And yes, there there's a setting > > 'same content on first page'. But it doesn't work properly. That is, if you > > ensure that 'same content on first page' is unchecked and you insert '2' in, > > let's say, the header on the second page, you do indeed suppress '1' from > > appearing on the first page. However, '2' then appears on Page 3 and on all > > subsequent pages!! > > I can't confirm that. I don't understand, why you insert '2' on the second > page. You just have to choose Insert => Pagenumber > > Perhaps you could attach a document that shows the problem (only a document > with some blak pages and the pagenumbers) Dieter, Believe me, I tried all the obvious commands, like Insert > Page Number, but I always ended up with the same number on all pages including the First page, or the same number on all pages coming after 2. I've followed Alex's suggestion(s). With that, I simply couldn't find the steps to which he referred. Possibly, that's because he and you are using 6.2.3, whereas I'm using 6.1.5 (I didn't anticipate getting involved in LO's Feedback). However, using his steps as a guide, I've managed to find the crucial settings and have found that Alex's basically do work. To illustrate the successful method I eventually found, I've written out the sequence below, in my reply to Alex. I'm assuming that you don't have to repeat these configuring steps for each new document, unless you want the document style to be changed in some way. Otherwise, this would be a 'right old fag' to have to do each time.
(In reply to Alex Thurgood from comment #4) > This works as designed, as Dieter has indicated. > > Version: 6.1.5.2 > Build ID: 90f8dcf33c87b3705e78202e3df5142b201bd805 > Threads CPU : 4; OS : Mac OS X 10.14.4; UI Render : par défaut; > Locale : fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); Calc: group threaded > > "There is more than one way to skin a cat", as the saying goes. > > On the first page, set a page style, let's use the First/Title Page style. > > Type a title, then force a page break > > Right mouse button click on the First Page, then look at the page properties. > > Under the Page Management tab, you should see : > > Style : First (Title) Page > Follow-on Style : Default Style > > Click on the Edit Style button at the end of the Follow-On Style entry, > which opens an identical tabbed dialog to manage your follow-on style. > Choose Footer (or Header, depending on where you want your page numbering). > > Click on Activate Footer. Leave the default ticked options (same content > left/right), same content first page. Click on Apply, then OK. The dialog > closes. > > Click on Apply and then OK again to close the initial page management dialog. > > Click on page 2, then insert a page number via Insert > Page Number. The > number 2 is displayed. > > Force a manual page break and you will see a new page with the number 3 in > the footer. > > No page numbering appears on the First/Title page. > > I have enclosed an ODT file that demonstrates this. Made with LO6152 as > outlined above. Alex, Many thanks for your input to this. Following your sequence, I simply couldn't find some of the steps. For instance, 'Properties', 'Page Mngt tab'. HOWEVER, some diligent searching along similar paths eventually led me to a crucial dropdown menu for 'First (Title) Page' and 'Default Style' that I seemed to recognise from your sequence. The dialog that those then opened was one I'd already been experimenting with in earnest, trying to get this simple page numbering working. Then, following the remainder of your sequence, I finally got it to work. From start to finish, here below is what I found I had to do: 1. Open a new blank page (File > New> Text Document). Use View > Zoom to set the default document page-size onscreen. (Is there no way of making a default zoom level?). 2. At top of first page, type the title of the document (I normally centre and underline it), then do a pagebreak (Insert > Page Break) to give a second blank page, leaving the cursor on that second page. 3. Do Format > Title Page, to open a configuration dialog of that name. Leave all selections for 'Make Title Page' and 'Page Numbering' in that dialog unchecked, but observe there's a section called 'Edit Page Properties', which has a Style dropdown. 4. Ignore, in that dropdown, 'First Page' and select 'Default Style' instead. Press the Edit button next to the dropdown. This opens a more-comprehensive page formatting and styling dialog, with a number of configuring tabs. Look to see whether page numbering is basically set to '1,2,3 ...'. 5. Assuming the successive page numbers are to go in the Header (in this instance), select the Header tab and ensure that all three settings at top-left are checked. Press Apply, OK. Then backtrack out of the smaller Title Page dialog. 6. On the required page 2 (which should still be there but is blank) position the cursor appropriately within the Header and then insert the page number using Insert > Page Number. 7. Now do a pagebreak, and you should see pages 3, 4, etc as you proceed.
A couple of things: In my Step 6 you have to be careful that the cursor is within the header area, before you do Insert > Page Number, otherwise the page numbering won't work out as expected. I suspect that it may be possible to circumvent Format > Title Page, and instead go straight to the comprehensive Format Page (Default style) dialog, and then set up the header/footer. I'll have to give that a try. If that works, then I guess Dieter was basically correct. Perhaps the key thing is to always do a pagebreak to get to the second page, and ensure there that the cursor is within the header area? But before, I'm sure I tried all of that and it just gave frustratingly wrong results.
Oops, made a mistake in my Reply! But also I found you CAN go straight to Format > Page - but of course in those Header settings at top-left you have to ensure that 'same content on first page' is DE-selected. I can't help but think that it's all too easy for a Writer novice to not get the right result when adding page numbers in this way, through easily overlooking the fact that when you insert the number it has to be within the header area, and unless you click to make the header zone show, you'll invariably make that mistake. Anyway, thanks to you all. I think that, as regards page numbering, I'm 'with it' now.
@Internalmemo : glad that we were able to get you through the problems you were facing ! For this kind of question, rather than bugzilla (as this turned out not to be a bug), you might want to consider using the Ask website : https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/questions/ or alternatively, search/ask in the OpenOffice.org forum: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/