Bug 125993 - CHAPTER NUMBERING DIALOG: Give option to seperate different chapter levels with a dash
Summary: CHAPTER NUMBERING DIALOG: Give option to seperate different chapter levels wi...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
Inherited From OOo
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Heading-Numbering-Dialog
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Reported: 2019-06-18 16:19 UTC by hoount
Modified: 2023-08-17 06:44 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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Mockup for the modification (131.34 KB, image/png)
2019-06-24 15:01 UTC, Heiko Tietze
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Description hoount 2019-06-18 16:19:02 UTC
Description:
Please,Help
I can't use in chinese taiwan apa paper,because i can't Change settings

in the web
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Options_2#When_in_Writer:_Show_sublevels

When in Writer: Show sublevels
When in Writer: Enter the number of previous levels to include in the numbering style. For example, if you enter "2" and the previous level uses the "A, B, C..." numbering style, the numbering scheme for the current level becomes: "A.1".

my problem is

"A.1" the "." is not

i want to be "A-1" or "1-1-2" 

Change the "."

Replace "any" with "."

chinese taiwan in the APA is "1-1-2" 
but, writer is 1.1.2

Actual Results:
i can't

Change the "."

Replace "any" with "."

chinese taiwan in the APA is "1-1-2" 
but, writer is 1.1.2

in the web
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Options_2#When_in_Writer:_Show_sublevels

When in Writer: Show sublevels
When in Writer: Enter the number of previous levels to include in the numbering style. For example, if you enter "2" and the previous level uses the "A, B, C..." numbering style, the numbering scheme for the current level becomes: "A.1".

Expected Results:

Change the "."

Replace "any" with "."

chinese taiwan in the APA is "1-1-2" 
but, writer is 1.1.2


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
Comment 1 Dieter 2019-06-18 19:32:20 UTC
I confirm, that it is not possible to set chapter numbering to 1-1 or A-1

Version: 6.4.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
Build ID: b170256fb6ebaf774b02b89835b19d9f3a1afb89
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: default; VCL: win; 
TinderBox: Win-x86_64@42, Branch:master, Time: 2019-06-07_03:30:35
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

I think, if it is part of APA-Style, it should be implemented

=> NEW Enhancement

cc: Design Team for further input
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2019-06-24 15:01:19 UTC
Created attachment 152371 [details]
Mockup for the modification

We have "Before" and "After" allowing to enter static text. The customization could provide means to modify the delimiter "Between" similarly, defaulting to the dot. In case of levels >2 it makes sense to only change the last delimiter, e.g. A-1+I defines the - at level 2 and the I at level 3 (but not A-1 vs A+1+I). 
Provided ODF allows this flexibility.

All these changes needs to fit into the new dialog, adding some developers. The mockup does not work on all aspects; in particular the mix between characters and numbers is not possible with this kind of top bar selection. So please just consider the Before/After > Delimiter part. (For consistency it needs a dot at After to have 1., 2. etc. - we provide this customization today only per selection from the predefined types).
Comment 3 Dieter 2019-06-24 17:14:50 UTC
Isn't it easier to integrate this option in Tolls => Chapter numbering?

Additional Option "Seperator between Numbers"
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2019-06-25 07:23:32 UTC
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #3)
> Isn't it easier to integrate this option in Tolls => Chapter numbering?
> 
> Additional Option "Seperator between Numbers"

We talk about the same, the mockup is just considering the new dialog (only available in Impress so far). And in fact it is the same option that I just put between others to safe space. In any case "between" would be before (disabled for level 1) or after (disabled for l10) while the term "between" for sure is easier to grasp (and IMHO better suited to before).
Comment 5 hoount 2019-07-05 12:01:25 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Created attachment 152371 [details]
> Mockup for the modification
> 
> We have "Before" and "After" allowing to enter static text. The
> customization could provide means to modify the delimiter "Between"
> similarly, defaulting to the dot. In case of levels >2 it makes sense to
> only change the last delimiter, e.g. A-1+I defines the - at level 2 and the
> I at level 3 (but not A-1 vs A+1+I). 
> Provided ODF allows this flexibility.
> 
> All these changes needs to fit into the new dialog, adding some developers.
> The mockup does not work on all aspects; in particular the mix between
> characters and numbers is not possible with this kind of top bar selection.
> So please just consider the Before/After > Delimiter part. (For consistency
> it needs a dot at After to have 1., 2. etc. - we provide this customization
> today only per selection from the predefined types).

Excuse me, which version of Writer is this?
Or
Still need to install other programs?
Comment 6 Heiko Tietze 2019-07-10 08:06:33 UTC
(In reply to hoount from comment #5)
> Excuse me, which version of Writer is this?

The idea to revamp the bullets dialog (1) has be partially implemented in Impress for the upcoming 6.3 release (@Gulcah: don't see your work in the release notes). 

(1) https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/10/28/impress-lists/
Comment 7 hoount 2020-07-27 01:32:51 UTC
excuse me
test the LibreOffice 6.3
test time 2020.07.27

Still have my problems

"A.1" the "." is not

i want to be "A-1" or "1-1-2" 

Change the "."

Replace "any" with "."

chinese taiwan in the APA is "1-1-2" 
but, writer is 1.1.2

Actual Results:
i can't

Change the "."

Replace "any" with "."

chinese taiwan in the APA is "1-1-2" 
but, writer is 1.1.2

It is recommended to make the writer more flexible,please
Comment 8 hoount 2021-03-10 01:11:16 UTC
(In reply to hoount from comment #7)
> excuse me
> test the LibreOffice 6.3
> test time 2020.07.27
> 
> Still have my problems
> 
> "A.1" the "." is not
> 
> i want to be "A-1" or "1-1-2" 
> 
> Change the "."
> 
> Replace "any" with "."
> 
> chinese taiwan in the APA is "1-1-2" 
> but, writer is 1.1.2
> 
> Actual Results:
> i can't
> 
> Change the "."
> 
> Replace "any" with "."
> 
> chinese taiwan in the APA is "1-1-2" 
> but, writer is 1.1.2
> 
> It is recommended to make the writer more flexible,please

Test the 7.0.4.2 (zh-TW)
time:2021/03/10

The problem persists
Comment 9 Heiko Tietze 2021-03-10 08:33:26 UTC
See bug 120905 what I have in mind.
Comment 10 sdc.blanco 2021-03-10 09:35:28 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> I at level 3 (but not A-1 vs A+1+I). 
> Provided ODF allows this flexibility.
It seems that it does. Note attribute style:num-prefix for <text:list-level-style-number>

16.34 <text:list-level-style-number>

A <text:list-level-style-number> specifies a list style where list items are preceded by numbers.

The <text:list-level-style-number> element is usable within the following element: <text:list-style> 16.32.

The <text:list-level-style-number> element has the following attributes: style:num-format 19.504, style:num-letter-sync 19.505, style:num-prefix 19.506, style:num-suffix 19.507, text:display-levels 19.803, text:level 19.834, text:start-value 19.874 and text:style-name 19.880.

https://docs.oasis-open.org/office/OpenDocument/v1.3/cs02/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.3-cs02-part3-schema.html#element-text_list-level-style-number
Comment 11 sdc.blanco 2021-03-28 22:40:10 UTC
This bug is a simpler "special case" of the more general request of bug 67986 to make an arbitrary selection of separators for a number configured in the Chapter Numbering dialog.