Bug 126878 - Add Revision Cloud to the shapes list
Summary: Add Revision Cloud to the shapes list
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Draw (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
unspecified
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: difficultyInteresting, easyHack, skillDesign, topicDesign
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Blocks: Shapes-Custom
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Reported: 2019-08-13 13:16 UTC by Tony Stone
Modified: 2021-08-07 20:14 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Description Tony Stone 2019-08-13 13:16:43 UTC
Desperately need a way to draw a revision cloud.  To see what I mean exactly google "revision cloud autocad" and it will show you what I am looking for. I have been working to get LO Draw to be used as a primary feild tool for construction managers in our organizatio.  This tool is one of the main things I feel we lack at the moment.  I would even be willing to pay for this feature.
Comment 1 Tony Stone 2019-08-21 01:13:35 UTC
For a work around, at this point I am exporting as a PDF then using the FoxIt PDF reader as it has this exact functionality.  Then I have to import it back into LO Draw, which loses a lot of formatting but I can at least draw a revision cloud that follows industry standard format.
Comment 2 Tony Stone 2019-09-07 20:01:54 UTC
I noticed on Thursday I got an email and it says this report has changed.  I don't know what it means where it says QA:needsComment

I would be happy to provide more info on my request but I don't know what else to provide....?  And again, I know some OS projects have options for "bounties" for features and I would like to know if there is an option some place for that.
Comment 3 Xisco Faulí 2019-09-24 11:13:56 UTC
You have the draw element 'Cloud'.
Would it work for you ?
Comment 4 Tony Stone 2019-10-16 00:46:44 UTC
(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #3)
> You have the draw element 'Cloud'.
> Would it work for you ?

I have used the cloud element.  The problem it is not very "elegant"...  If I need to bring attention to a part of a drawing on a large 36x48 drawing and I want the clouded part over a large area I don't have control on the amount of curves it creates.  For example, it would need to have a lot more curves to look well if i was "clouding" a revision on an 8 inch square area.... like I said before, FoxIt PDF reader has an excellent "revision cloud" tool.  The problem is I need to be able to have that same functionality in one tool.
Comment 5 QA Administrators 2019-10-16 02:30:59 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 6 Tony Stone 2019-10-16 12:47:28 UTC
Autocad also has a "revision Cloud" tool that is pretty standard and typical of what we normally see in the field.  You can see an example of the revision cloud tool here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzxfxh9KjQA
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esbj5ZO1v2I
Comment 7 Tony Stone 2019-10-16 12:52:08 UTC
or this for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuEY0bE8PY0
Comment 8 Heiko Tietze 2019-11-22 08:55:05 UTC
The cloud object is a custom shape, and while it's possible to create similar objects with more or less bumps it won't be as flexible as in AutoCAD (see also bug 101862). You can also convert the object into a polygon and modify the points though placing the individual points with a bezier relation to the neighbors is not possible. We have to stick to the open document format. Of course it would be possible to add a function that generates a cloud-like polygon, though the number of users who benefit is limited. On the other hand, it would be a big step forward if realized as brush (see bug 90045) - this idea might be too far-fetched. 
Any other ideas, Regina?

(In reply to Tony Stone from comment #2)
> I noticed on Thursday I got an email and it says this report has changed.  I
> don't know what it means where it says QA:needsComment

Your request goes through QA management. We aim to respond quickly and have reminder for tickets that lack on comments.

(In reply to Tony Stone from comment #2)
> I know some OS projects have options for
> "bounties" for features and I would like to know if there is an option some
> place for that.

We don't have bounties but professional support. Take a look here https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/professional-support/
Comment 9 Regina Henschel 2019-11-22 10:15:26 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8)
> The cloud object is a custom shape, and while it's possible to create
> similar objects with more or less bumps it won't be as flexible as in
> AutoCAD (see also bug 101862). You can also convert the object into a
> polygon and modify the points though placing the individual points with a
> bezier relation to the neighbors is not possible. We have to stick to the
> open document format. Of course it would be possible to add a function that
> generates a cloud-like polygon, though the number of users who benefit is
> limited. On the other hand, it would be a big step forward if realized as
> brush (see bug 90045) - this idea might be too far-fetched. 
> Any other ideas, Regina?
> 

Such object can be saved in ODF as path object or as custom-shape. What manipulation with the object are done after it is first time generated?

If an immediate realization is needed, I would do it via macro. At least the way from the outline of rectangle or ellipse to a sequence of arcs is not hard. Although I would not use real arcs but simple Bézier curve segments.

It is not a question of ODF, but a problem of providing a generating tool. Besides a conversion tool also a new kind of freeform line might solve the request.
Comment 10 Heiko Tietze 2021-05-25 10:13:55 UTC
Custom shapes are design only tasks but with interesting difficulty.