Bug 127108 - print double-sided and in reverse order
Summary: print double-sided and in reverse order
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Printing and PDF export (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
unspecified
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64) Windows (All)
: lowest minor
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Reported: 2019-08-23 06:58 UTC by Simonon Olivier
Modified: 2019-09-19 09:19 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Attachments
3 sides (6.80 KB, application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document)
2019-09-18 17:55 UTC, Simonon Olivier
Details
ODT 3 sides (18.51 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2019-09-18 17:55 UTC, Simonon Olivier
Details

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Description Simonon Olivier 2019-08-23 06:58:53 UTC
I wrote a 3-page document. I would like to print it double-sided. When I select the "reverse order" option, printing starts with the last page, but pages 2 and 3 are on the same sheet of paper, and page 1 is printed on a separate piece of paper.
My printer is a Canon MG5150, the drivers are installed by Windows 10
Comment 1 Oliver Brinzing 2019-08-24 08:39:50 UTC
(In reply to Simonon Olivier from comment #0)
> I wrote a 3-page document. I would like to print it double-sided. When I
> select the "reverse order" option, printing starts with the last page, but
> pages 2 and 3 are on the same sheet of paper, and page 1 is printed on a
> separate piece of paper.

What do you expect should happen with option "reverse order" ?
Do you want to print a brochure ?

https://help.libreoffice.org/6.3/en-US/text/swriter/guide/print_brochure.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN

Can you please try with latest LO Version 6.3.0.4 ?
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/
Comment 2 Simonon Olivier 2019-08-26 21:02:08 UTC
When I print 3 faces of text, and choose to print on both sides of the paper, page 2 must be behind page 1, and page 3 is alone on another page.
This is not what happens when I choose to print in reverse order: page 1 is alone on a sheet and page 3 is behind page 2 ... it's not normal.

The libreoffice version is up to date on my computer running Windows 10
Comment 3 Simonon Olivier 2019-08-26 21:04:27 UTC
This is not what happens when I choose to print in reverse order with double sided
Comment 4 Oliver Brinzing 2019-08-27 05:28:44 UTC
in my understanding printing in reverse order means: 
start with the last page instead of page 1, e.g.:

https://api.libreoffice.org/docs/idl/ref/servicecom_1_1sun_1_1star_1_1text_1_1PrintSettings.html#ab88608c803979e7403215b44f3e355ea
Comment 5 Simonon Olivier 2019-08-27 17:17:38 UTC
I will try to make myself understood, again. I am not English speaking.

The print option in reverse order prints from the last page to the first page. I agree. 3| + 2| + 1|

The double sided option prints page 1 on the front, page 2 on the back, page 3 on the front of the second sheet. 1|2 + 3|


If I combine the two options, the printer must print first page 3 on the front of the first sheet, then page 2 on the back of another sheet, and finally, it prints page 1 on the front of this second sheet. 3| + 2|1

Unfortunately, when I print a 3-page text by activating both options (double-sided and reverse order), I get page 1 of the printed text alone on one sheet, and pages 2 and 3 on another sheet, in double sided. 3|2 + 1|

It's not normal to have page 1 alone on a sheet in this case!

Is that clear? I can not be more understandable with Google translation ...
Comment 6 Oliver Brinzing 2019-08-28 13:41:12 UTC
(In reply to Simonon Olivier from comment #5)
 
> Unfortunately, when I print a 3-page text by activating both options
> (double-sided and reverse order), I get page 1 of the printed text alone on
> one sheet, and pages 2 and 3 on another sheet, in double sided. 3|2 + 1|

now i can confirm, but i tried with word 2010 and got same result, so i am not sure if it is a bug.
Comment 7 Xisco Faulí 2019-09-18 11:11:32 UTC
(In reply to Oliver Brinzing from comment #6)
> (In reply to Simonon Olivier from comment #5)
>  
> > Unfortunately, when I print a 3-page text by activating both options
> > (double-sided and reverse order), I get page 1 of the printed text alone on
> > one sheet, and pages 2 and 3 on another sheet, in double sided. 3|2 + 1|
> 
> now i can confirm, but i tried with word 2010 and got same result, so i am
> not sure if it is a bug.

Hello Simonon,
Is there any app that acts as you are saying? it seems LibreOffice and MSO have the same behaviour which makes me think it might not be an issue...
Comment 8 Simonon Olivier 2019-09-18 17:13:52 UTC
Hello.
In addition to LibreOffice, I use MS Office 2010 and MS Office 2016 (on different computers), and I have never encountered this problem, while I always do it to print my work. Sometimes I have to print documents of more than 20 pages, and this problem never appeared with anything other than LibreOffice.

If the last page has to be white (when the number of pages of the document is odd, for example 7 pages), MS Office prints a white side (for the last side) and then prints the last page (page 7, in my example) on the same sheet of paper. Like this, it is not the numbered page number 1 which is alone on a sheet of paper, but the page numbered 7 which is alone on a sheet of paper (as in a book).
Comment 9 Oliver Brinzing 2019-09-18 17:42:16 UTC
(In reply to Simonon Olivier from comment #8)
> In addition to LibreOffice, I use MS Office 2010 and MS Office 2016 (on
> different computers), and I have never encountered this problem, while I
> always do it to print my work. Sometimes I have to print documents of more
> than 20 pages, and this problem never appeared with anything other than
> LibreOffice.

Can you please provide a sample document (e.g. odt and/or docx) so we can do further testing?

(Please note that the attachment will be public, remove any sensitive information before attaching it. 
See https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/FAQ#How_can_I_eliminate_confidential_data_from_a_sample_document.3F for help on how to do so.)
Comment 10 Simonon Olivier 2019-09-18 17:44:30 UTC
ok, i search one
Comment 11 Simonon Olivier 2019-09-18 17:55:12 UTC
Created attachment 154266 [details]
3 sides

3 sides, test.docx
Comment 12 Simonon Olivier 2019-09-18 17:55:50 UTC
Created attachment 154267 [details]
ODT 3 sides
Comment 13 Simonon Olivier 2019-09-18 17:57:09 UTC
There are 2 files:
.odt and .docx

Good test
Comment 14 QA Administrators 2019-09-19 03:17:55 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 15 Timur 2019-09-19 08:12:13 UTC
This is trivial issue, if bug at all. 
You say you want double-sided print with reverse order. Both options are working in LO and Print Preview is correct. If you don't like what you get, you may simply add one more empty page at the end before printing. 

I tried to print from MSO 2016 due to your comment 8 and MSO behaves similar to LO. 
To be clear, I went to File-Options-Advanced-Print and checked "Print in reverse order2. 
And it did print in reverse, but 3|2-1. It didn't add page.

Unless you have a use case why normal double-sided print is necessary in reverse order (any what wouldn't you add a page), this can be closed as NotABug.
If you want LO to think and guess what user wants, it's WontFix.
Comment 16 Simonon Olivier 2019-09-19 09:19:03 UTC
Ok thank you. I find it strange that you get something other than me with MS O, but it's nothing, I'll add a blank page for files with odd pages.
Thank you for your patience!