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Bug 127280 - Toggle baseline grid from menu
Summary: Toggle baseline grid from menu
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
Inherited From OOo
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsUXEval
Depends on:
Blocks: Main-Menu Grid-Helplines
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Reported: 2019-09-02 12:14 UTC by pedro.silva
Modified: 2019-09-05 13:12 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Screenshot from one of my projects in Scribus displaying Baseline Grid on (105.59 KB, image/png)
2019-09-03 13:08 UTC, pedro.silva
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Description pedro.silva 2019-09-02 12:14:59 UTC
It would be really neat to have a new entry in the View menu: View > Grid and Helplines labelled “Display Baseline grid”.

This would be disabled in the case there is no baseline page set (Format > Page... > Register-true*). This would increase visual clarity when working with multiple paragraph styles (some with register-true activate and some not) since it would be visible the ones following the Page baseline and the ones that don't (AKA have their own line-spacing).

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bug 127279
^ in here I purpose change the label.
Comment 1 Heiko Tietze 2019-09-03 06:50:19 UTC
To make sure what you have in mind, switching on the new option would make the page background feint-ruled (with the same position on all pages). Is there much advantage against the current grid?
Comment 2 pedro.silva 2019-09-03 12:54:53 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> To make sure what you have in mind, switching on the new option would make
> the page background feint-ruled (with the same position on all pages). Is
> there much advantage against the current grid?

Hm... I'm not sure I follow. What I was thinking was that, upon pressing that menu item, horizontal lines would appear (the Baseline Grid from the referenced paragraph style that was chosen in the page properties). This would make quite the improvement because the Paragraphs (that have Aligned to Baseline activated [AKA register-true activate]) would be visually above those lines as it happens with other DTP software applications (I'm going to try to leave here some screenshots).
Comment 3 pedro.silva 2019-09-03 13:08:47 UTC
Created attachment 153838 [details]
Screenshot from one of my projects in Scribus displaying Baseline Grid on

Different Paragraph styles aligned to the same common Baseline Grid and also, for this example, the note Paragraph style that does not follow the same Baseline Grid (it uses it's own line spacing). I also let the normal Grid (Modular in this example) on in order to make clear the difference between the two.
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2019-09-03 13:12:51 UTC
We have View > Grid and Helplines > Display Grid, and I was asking if that's enough for you. While your request sounds like a valuable enhancement it brings us closer to DTP and we have to balance those improvements against effort. Just to mention, I'm not against the idea.
Comment 5 pedro.silva 2019-09-03 14:42:10 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)
> We have View > Grid and Helplines > Display Grid, and I was asking if that's
> enough for you. While your request sounds like a valuable enhancement it
> brings us closer to DTP and we have to balance those improvements against
> effort. Just to mention, I'm not against the idea.

No sweat :) I appreciate the time!

And yes I understand what you mean, It's just we already have the whole baseline deal/feature we even have it in a quite smart way using a paragraph style as a reference (register-true [Page style: Page]). So it would be really cool to be able to see it visually plus it would work as a visual cue for when a new user is starting to work on a previously made document or when he is working with another friend that sent him the file (with the Register-true activated). And evidently it would help improve the workflow.
Comment 6 Cor Nouws 2019-09-04 20:37:43 UTC
if time allows.. would be a good improvement. I remember moments that I miss it.
Comment 7 Thomas Lendo 2019-09-05 12:07:40 UTC
+1 for such enhancement
Comment 8 Heiko Tietze 2019-09-05 12:43:02 UTC
Since we do not have baselines in the narrow sense (it's actually just a reference paragraph, see c7 c9 at bug 127279) this visualization makes no sense. => WF

(The discussion on renaming and/or better documentation is still open.)
Comment 9 pedro.silva 2019-09-05 13:09:16 UTC
Understood. 

Note, there is interesting info related to this in the Bug referenced by Heiko ^