Bug 131224 - Update Bullet and Numbering Image presets
Summary: Update Bullet and Numbering Image presets
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
unspecified
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
URL:
Whiteboard: target:7.0.0
Keywords: needsUXEval
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2020-03-08 18:27 UTC by andreas_k
Modified: 2022-01-31 13:36 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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updated image preset (46.12 KB, image/jpeg)
2020-03-08 18:27 UTC, andreas_k
Details
B&N with the patch (126.25 KB, image/png)
2020-03-10 09:56 UTC, Heiko Tietze
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updated image preset 2 (187.70 KB, image/png)
2020-03-11 09:44 UTC, andreas_k
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Bullet examples (100.82 KB, image/png)
2020-03-11 10:26 UTC, Roman Kuznetsov
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Description andreas_k 2020-03-08 18:27:18 UTC
Created attachment 158498 [details]
updated image preset

The bullet and Numbering presets are not realy up to date. Some files are gif in an bad quality, ... so I work on update the image presets.

The idea is to use real images as image preset and not use symbols, cause compare to images, symbols can be added with bullets section where you can add symbols from different fonts. Images are not themable, bullets from an font can change the color so it's not usefull to have symbol presets in the image section.

my proposal is to use 4x6 elementary svg icon images. They can be usefull and give the user an information what to use there. In addition there is an ADD button so the user can upload there ANY image from the company or the internet.

As we also did in Area -> fill the proposal is to have less presets, cause there is the option to add user defined images.
Comment 1 andreas_k 2020-03-08 18:28:02 UTC
discussion was done in the design channel and I prepare already an patch

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/90185

anyway I'm open for feedback.
Comment 2 Roman Kuznetsov 2020-03-08 19:04:29 UTC
Don't think that next image are good idea for bullets:

07 undo
09 info
13 folder
14 mail
15 mail send
18 cloud
22 radio button
24 progress bar

Bullets should be bullets but not hard images
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2020-03-09 10:16:13 UTC
Agree with Roman. Less is more, see also Bullet and Numbering dialog > Customize > Graphics: Select => Gallery. In a nutshell: B&N dialog take symbols for selection from this gallery.

I'm surprised that we can exchange the bullets at all since it was used for something around html, don't recall what exactly.
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2020-03-09 10:18:51 UTC
Thinking ahead, why not make the B&N bullets themeable and drop the whole gallery in favor of "Symbols" that contains of your artwork. "Drawback" is that you cannot pick some bullet in the B&N dialog that was placed in the gallery and you have to load it via file. Requires some coding, on the other hand. What do you think, Samuel?
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2020-03-09 10:51:33 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)
> Thinking ahead, why not make the B&N bullets themeable...

Bad idea, as Roman said on Telegram. Even when we save the themed bullet in the document to have it the same on every system it makes no sense.
Comment 6 Heiko Tietze 2020-03-10 09:56:33 UTC
Created attachment 158542 [details]
B&N with the patch

B&N dialog lists the images and it looks like the canvas is not cleaned before. Everything is fine when I move the images from the gallery into the document.
Comment 7 andreas_k 2020-03-10 16:40:33 UTC
thanks for the feedback I remove the non bullet images and use there more bullet style images.
Comment 8 Heiko Tietze 2020-03-11 09:37:44 UTC
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #7)
> thanks for the feedback I remove the non bullet images and use there more
> bullet style images.

Please upload a screenshot of your latest collection so Roman and others can comment.

On a different note, we should maybe remove the bullet - B&N dialog relation completely and add a few hard-coded images that are listed in the dialog. That allows to remove/rename the bullet gallery to something else and all images make sense. Plus, we have a build switch WITH_GALLERY_BUILD that ignores bullets.
Comment 9 andreas_k 2020-03-11 09:44:39 UTC
Created attachment 158592 [details]
updated image preset 2

updated preset.
Comment 10 Roman Kuznetsov 2020-03-11 10:05:19 UTC
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #9)
> Created attachment 158592 [details]
> updated image preset 2
> 
> updated preset.

there are bad elements still there:

13 folder
22 books
Comment 11 andreas_k 2020-03-11 10:07:44 UTC
do you have something you want to see instead?
Comment 12 Roman Kuznetsov 2020-03-11 10:26:53 UTC
Created attachment 158595 [details]
Bullet examples

Somthing like these
Comment 13 Commit Notification 2020-03-29 12:56:36 UTC
andreas kainz committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/51d78ecd2c0ef0e5b8d44f8ab211e4435f6efeb0

tdf#131224 update bullets and numbering images

It will be available in 7.0.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 14 Heiko Tietze 2020-03-30 14:52:19 UTC
Old bullets are still listed after cleaning the user profile.
Comment 15 Commit Notification 2020-04-03 10:15:45 UTC
Heiko Tietze committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/4f5b4d2a4f509a02581730a61fc9f52ea882cad8

Revert "tdf#131224 update bullets and numbering images"

It will be available in 7.0.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 16 andreas_k 2020-05-26 12:55:30 UTC
I don't know why but it's not that easy to change the images.
Comment 17 Heiko Tietze 2022-01-11 13:14:52 UTC
Andreas, resolve fixed?