Description: When you want to see, what I see on my PC, open the attached file: "Writer bad spaces, Tahoma, without Anti-Aliasin Font10.5.png" When opening the picture: Make sure that you view the images 1:1 (100%) and that anti-aliasing is switched off in the image viewer. (For example Menu->Edit->Settings in "Nomacs"). What can you see in the picture? An example: In the word "Kunde" with the arrow, "u" and "n" stick together. But in the word "wundersamen", "u" and "n" do not stick together. There are a lot further examples in this text, without arrows. So this is what bothers me: The spaces between the letter look not always the same. (Please note: I do not want to use such modern technique like Anti-Aliasing. I think Anti-Aliasing is good for 4K monitors. But I have a 1280x1024 pixel LCD monitor. I know that most people use Anti-Aliasing on a 1280x1024 LCD monitor. But I do not like it. I would rather have a crystal-clear writing with stairs than a light blurred font without steps. ) Letters stick together at Tahoma without anti-aliasing ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Where can we observe this? Answer: In the LibreOffice Writer. At any font size. The most error-free font size is 10 (108dpi). Please have a look at the attached File "Beispiel für jede Textgrösse.odt" -Can you see the phenomenon also in Featherpad and Geany? Answers: At font size 9 (108dpi) it occurs in Wirter, but not in Featherpad. At font size 9 (108dpi) it occurs in Writer, but not in Geany. -What happens if you enable anti-aliasing (with 10.5)? Answer: Then the spacing is better. But there are still a few bad spacing issues. Please compare the attached file "Writer bad spaces, Tahoma, with Anti-Aliasin, Font10.5.png" -What are the letters that always stick together? Answer: That is different. Sometimes they stick together, a few words later they don't anymore. -Does the phenomenon also occur with other fonts? Microsoft fonts, or even Linux fonts, like DejaVu sans? Answer: DejaVu Sans: Yes, but much less. Arial: Much less, but irregular spacing. Attached is an example for DejaVu: File "Font DejaVu Sans.png" Steps to Reproduce: 1. Install Tahoma on your Linux system 2. Disable Anti-Aliasing on your System 3. Disable in Writer "Smooth screen fonts" 4. Disable in Writer "use Anti-Aliasing" 5. Open the attached document "Beispiel für jede Textgrösse.odt" Actual Results: The spaces between letters are irregular. Some letters stick together. Other have normal spaces. Other have too much space between them. Expected Results: The visual impression should be that all distances between the individual letters are the same. Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: Yes Additional Info: I have tried to enable OpenGL. But when I enable it, close Writer. Open it again, then OpenGL is disabled again. *Confused. Output from terminal: $ glxinfo | grep OpenGL OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Desktop OpenGL core profile version string: 4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 18.3.6 OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.50 OpenGL core profile context flags: (none) OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile OpenGL core profile extensions: OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 18.3.6 OpenGL shading language version string: 1.30 OpenGL context flags: (none) OpenGL extensions: OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.1 Mesa 18.3.6 OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.10 OpenGL ES profile extensions:
Created attachment 161138 [details] How it looks
Created attachment 161139 [details] Beispiel für jede Textgrösse.odt
Created attachment 161140 [details] Writer bad spaces, Tahoma, with Anti-Aliasin, Font10.5.png
Created attachment 161141 [details] Font DejaVu Sans.png
Is it possible to update to a more recent version of LibreOffice?
This is the latest version from the Package manager of my Linux distribution.
I have tried out now Writer 6.4.4.1: It's the same.
Sorry, for all the questions.. Source and maybe also version of the Tahoma font I don't reproduce it on Windows
Created attachment 161201 [details] Tahoma Font File This is the Tahoma Font I have used.
It's version 2.60. But with newer versions it's the same.
I added the font specialist.. may take a few days
I can't reproduce it with Version: 7.0.3.1 (x64) Build ID: d7547858d014d4cf69878db179d326fc3483e082 CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB Calc: CL Could you please try to reproduce it with the latest version of LibreOffice from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ ? LO now uses Skia for rendering, so perhaps this solves your problem. I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to 'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug is still present in the latest version.
Created attachment 168606 [details] This is how it looks with version 7.0.4.2
Created attachment 168607 [details] This is my writer version I have updated my LibreOffice via my package manager (backports version). In the picture you see information about my writer version.
So it's still the same problem.
Hmm the attached font appears to be Tahoma 2.60. Looks old to me. I'm having version 6.05 on my system. Any change to download a more recent version somewhere?
So don't use the Tahoma font where deficiencies (gpos, kern tables) and hinting issues make for bad kerning and unreliable font to use on a GTK3 (pango harfbuzz) based DE. You could drop back and try the 'gen' backend, but not clear that would improve the kerning with your os/DE At some point implementation of floating point positioning on VCL canvas for bug 103322 would allow sub-pixel rendering, until then fonts must render without benefit of horizontal hinting. =-ref-= https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/-/issues/463 https://github.com/harfbuzz/harfbuzz/issues/2394 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 88991 ***
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 144862 ***