Description: Using the "pointer as pen" function, in conjunction with a tactile screen, is very useful for remote lecturing. However, it is a bit clumsy to use as it is not possible to activate this option, clear the ink from the slide, undo the drawing or change the ink color without going through a right-click context menu or dialog window. Steps to Reproduce: 1. start presentation mode (F5) 2. right-click to activate pointer as pen mode 3. navigate several sub-menus for features Actual Results: Have a simple keyboard shortcut to activate pointer and pen, clear ink and rotate through a few colours Expected Results: as above Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: Yes Additional Info: no
It is indeed not possible to assign it to anything. Let's ask UX team to be sure we should accept this.
My first idea was to use the presenter console but we neither have the pen there nor any context menu. But since several functions are activated per key, for example toggle screen black per B or white per W, we could introduce another key for the pen on/off and erase all. But keys are precious and all other tweaks are rather done per menu. If the presenter console is active a dedicated field would be handy, of course.
We discussed this topic in the design meeting and agree with the idea. Since P and N are both used for previous/next slide but many alternatives allow the same, we suggest to drop these shortcuts and use P for pen on/off and E for erase all.
Created attachment 168826 [details] Current help screen of the presenter console
Created attachment 168827 [details] Modified help screen of the presenter console Proposed patch: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/109108 Here I went with the proposed shortcuts, but it may worth reconsidering what bug #96867 suggested, the PowerPoint way: Ctrl+p -> Draw Pen Ctrl+e -> Eraser This may be more familiar to people switching from PP.
Gabor Kelemen committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/5544c178975d480242151083d6c72d42b88a1db4 tdf#134281 [API-CHANGE] Add keyboard shortcut for UsePen and EraseInk It will be available in 7.2.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
As a mixed Impress/PowerPoint user, this was a terrible decision. There are plenty of free keys to use, why break API's and compatibly with PowerPoint for this? We should use the same keys as PowerPoint or if that's not possible, use unassigned ones.
(In reply to Luke from comment #7) > As a mixed Impress/PowerPoint user, this was a terrible decision. There are > plenty of free keys to use, why break API's and compatibly with PowerPoint > for this? We should use the same keys as PowerPoint or if that's not > possible, use unassigned ones. You probably talk about P/N for previous/next slide. There are plenty of (easier to tap) alternatives, and P is natural for Pen (and E for Erase). I think it's worth to randomly assign a key to a function than learning to use arrow keys.
*** Bug 119119 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Verified in: Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 72841008bf422dfd8553240b3a78f0474d03523c CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 17134; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: hu-HU (hu_HU); UI: hu-HU Calc: threaded Jumbo
Gabor Kelemen committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/help/commit/da7edbd2fd925bd80fdd6affe2ff6510c8ac1c5d (related) tdf#134281 tdf#149351 Update shortcuts descriptions