Bug 135374 - Newcomers could need help regarding daily builds
Summary: Newcomers could need help regarding daily builds
Status: RESOLVED NOTABUG
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Installation (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.1.0.0.alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Blocks: Writer-Outline-Folding
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Reported: 2020-08-02 01:05 UTC by j.a.swami
Modified: 2020-08-04 06:04 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description j.a.swami 2020-08-02 01:05:20 UTC
Description:
Users new to daily builds could benefit from clearer step-by-step guidance on the simplest way to install daily builds to test the Writer-Outline-View feature. 

Given the number of users subscribed to the bug, there may be quite a few of us.

For me the instructions at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel/Linux don't seem to yield an up-to-date version. 

The instructions at https://libreoffice.soluzioniopen.com/index.php/daily-version/ don't seem to work for me either. 

Thank you.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install appimage as directed.
2. Check Tools / LibreOfficeDev / Online Update / Check now (or /Help / Check for updates")
3. Receive notice "LibreOfficeDev 7.1 is up to date."
4. Go to "Help / LibreOfficeDev" and see that the date is 2 days back.


Actual Results:
I do get 7.1.0.alpho0+. But the date is 2020-07-30, and "update 

Expected Results:
I would have an up-to-date version.


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
Version: 7.1.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: <buildversion>
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 5.4; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI: en-US
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@86-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2020-07-30_20:15:28
Calc: threaded
Comment 1 Dieter 2020-08-02 14:33:40 UTC
You find the most recent version here: https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/current.html
Does this solve your problem => NEEDINFO

Additional informaton:
AFAIK Writer-Outline-View is curently an experimental feature. So please enable experimental fatures in Tools => Options => LibreOffice => Advanced
Comment 2 j.a.swami 2020-08-02 17:25:16 UTC
(In reply to Dieter from comment #1)
> You find the most recent version here:
> https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/current.html
> Does this solve your problem => NEEDINFO
> 
> Additional informaton:
> AFAIK Writer-Outline-View is curently an experimental feature. So please
> enable experimental fatures in Tools => Options => LibreOffice => Advanced

Thank you, Deiter. 

Does it solve my problem? Mostly.

Finding the most recent version and installing it by following the enclosed "readme" was easy. 

Yes, one has to enable experimental features.

One also has to go to "Tools => Options => LibreOfficeDev Writer => View" and enable "Show outline content visibility button." 

Then, yes, one can see and test the feature. 

(Users who've been following the bug will know that the feature involves different levels of headings and text, and not the sort of outline one gets from "Bullets and numbering.")

My one remaining question concerns how a user is to keep the "most recent version" up to date. Does "Tools => Options => LibreOfficeDev => Online Update => Every day" see to that? Is one then automatically informed of new builds? Is the process of updating automatic? Or does one have to do something further?

Thank you very much again, Deiter, for your help.
Comment 3 QA Administrators 2020-08-03 03:52:02 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 4 Dieter 2020-08-03 06:59:59 UTC
(In reply to j.a.swami from comment #2)
> My one remaining question concerns how a user is to keep the "most recent
> version" up to date. Does "Tools => Options => LibreOfficeDev => Online
> Update => Every day" see to that? Is one then automatically informed of new
> builds? Is the process of updating automatic? Or does one have to do
> something further?

I can't remember, that LO automatically informs you. I if LO would behaves like this, you still have to download and install it manually. Since daily builds (as the name says) are updated at least every second day, you'll know, that there is a new version.

So we can close this bug report?
=> NEEDINFO
Comment 5 j.a.swami 2020-08-03 14:10:58 UTC
Yes, we can close the bug. Thank you very much, Dieter, for your help. Much appreciated.
Comment 6 Matthew Forrester 2020-08-04 02:17:19 UTC
I encountered the same problem as j.a.swami.

I learned how to install LibreOffice Daily builds and joined BugZilla because this feature (outlining) has been the most important feature I have wanted in LibreOffice and its predecessors since I began using them in the last century.

This post was helpful, but I stumbled across it by accident.

Would it be possible to add this information to the 7.10 Release Notes, please? A link to the Release Notes pops up when you install the LibreOffice Daily build and so I think that is the place that has the best chance of reaching other users who are keen to begin using the outlining tools immediately.
Comment 7 Dieter 2020-08-04 06:04:48 UTC
(In reply to Matthew Forrester from comment #6)
> Would it be possible to add this information to the 7.10 Release Notes,
> please? A link to the Release Notes pops up when you install the LibreOffice
> Daily build and so I think that is the place that has the best chance of
> reaching other users who are keen to begin using the outlining tools
> immediately.

I'm very sure, Jim Raykowski will add some informations about Writer Outline View to the release notes.

cc: Jim Raykowski