Description: Hard to insert a page with different in between pages without affecting page style of other pages Steps to Reproduce: 1. Open the attached file 2. Insert - Manual Breaks -> Manual Break 3. Pick default style Actual Results: 1) First page landscape 2) Second page default 3. Page default Expected Results: Intended; Insert a new page between two landscape pages. Result is First landscape, second Default, third default. Yes, yes it perfectly explainable; however not WYSIWYG. Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: No Additional Info: Version: 7.1.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) Build ID: e8b8e7be0b2ad693224cd94062a55610eb69df7e CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: default; VCL: win Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL); UI: en-US Calc: CL
Telesto, it seems, that nobody could confirm this bug since more than one year. So I‘d like to ask, if it is still reproducible for you. Could you please try to reproduce it with a master build from http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/current.html? I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to 'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug is still present in the latest version.
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Still there Version: 7.3.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: d5e55d204b71710eb5eb5d2c683dd6698626df3c CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: en-US (nl_NL); UI: en-US Calc: CL UX topic; not totally certain if this has been handled already; I find the page style handling inconvenient, but well I argued a lot about that already
I confirm the behaviour, but I don't think, that this is a bug: Attached file has a page break, but this is a page break with no style (you can see this, if you edit page break). So it takes always the page style from the previous page. Therefore it changes to portrait, if you enter page break with default page style. If you assign page style landscape to the page break in the document, you'll get the expected result, if you insert page vbreak with default page style => RESOLVED NOTABUG Feel free to change it back with a short reasoning, if you disagree. Perhaps it wold be useful to add information to following help page: https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/guide/page_break.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN Some informations are provided here: https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/01/04010000.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN
Created attachment 175380 [details] Example file (In reply to Dieter from comment #5) > Perhaps it wold be useful to add information to following help page: > https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/guide/page_break. > html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN > Some informations are provided here: > https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/01/04010000. > html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN This probably more productive approach.. After reading you're comment I recall nagged about this from different angels and with success various people (UX/developers). I see inserting or changing an existing page from Portrait to Landscape (and back) as the most common case Topics of most interest (from my perspective) * Changing the first page to 'Landscape' where the next pages should be Portrait * Insert a new page, with different orientation between existing pages * Change orientation of existing page in a document without affecting the reset The issue being that you have multiple tools which look a good candidate at the start, but don't work out as expected. No go * Format -> Page Style -> Page Tab -> Landscape (makes the default Landscape * Format -> Page Style -> Organizer Tab -> Next Style -> Landscape (not intended to be used; Word Model? * Double clicking a page style inside sidebar with cursor some page -> Problem of the scope of the change.. Not limited to single page but some range (if page break has no explicit style, those will be included too) Route A; Insert -> Manual Page break -> and using explicit page style was most productive route. Route B: CTRL+A Enter -> Soft break. Next Format -> Paragraph -> Text flow tab -> Check With page style -> Landscape --- Side-kick Another topic to include is DOCX conversion.. Defining a style for a page explicitly creates pretty unworkable end result. Every page getting a unique Style :-(; so Page Style Portrait applied to different pages becomes "Converted1" for page 1 "Converted2" for page to " Converted 3" for page 3 and so on. [Save attached file to DOCX; and look at Format -> Paragraph -> Text flow tab. Consequence A: The usage of styles being ruined. There is no single page style (Landscape) anymore where can change something which affects all pages with same style (every page gets unique style] Consequence B: The generic name makes really uninformative what so special about the style. [No clue if DOCX being capable to store style names; doesn't look that way] LibO Page Style model isn't MSO approach :-(. And hell for intercompatibility
Considering that switching between Landscape / Portrait is done very often by users (and questioned about), I believe the help page could better explain how to do this. I'm taking this one.
JFTR there is this page about Changing Page Orientation: https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/guide/pageorientation.html
(In reply to Rafael Lima from comment #8) > JFTR there is this page about Changing Page Orientation: > > https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/guide/pageorientation. > html I think this is almoste everything we need. What is missing: - Inserting and deleting Page breaks [1] should be added as related topic - short information, that manual page break might cause some trouble (see this bug here) [1] https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/guide/page_break.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN
Rafael Lima committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/help/commit/ff4b6d982cb29758b1e81e04f8e404c8ea7324c9 tdf#136495 Explain how to quickly switch between Landscape / Portrait
VERIFIED There is a new part "To Quickly Switch Between Portrait and Landscape Page Layout" in documentation: https://help.libreoffice.org/7.4/en-GB/text/swriter/guide/pageorientation.html?&DbPAR=-WRITER&System=WIN and in https://help.libreoffice.org/7.4/en-GB/text/swriter/guide/page_break.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN Rafael, thanks for fixing it!