Bug 139918 - Page Format Size set to A4 instead of Letter for US users
Summary: Page Format Size set to A4 instead of Letter for US users
Status: RESOLVED INSUFFICIENTDATA
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.0.4.2 release
Hardware: All Windows (All)
: medium normal
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Reported: 2021-01-26 01:08 UTC by Bob
Modified: 2023-03-25 03:24 UTC (History)
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Description Bob 2021-01-26 01:08:52 UTC
Description:
The Page Format Size is set to A4 by default for US users. That is NOT the only issue with the Page Format settings, as the Margins: Normal(0.75") actually formats with the right page margin set at 0.79" for some reason (perhaps related to the wrong paper size for the US as indicated above; however, after changing that to Letter, the Normal(0.75") issue persists (although all the other margin default settings are correct)).

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Go to Page Format Size. The US setting is mistakenly set for A4.
2. Select Margins: Normal(0.75")
3. Open a new blank document

Actual Results:
Note the incorrect margins of 0.79".

Expected Results:
Margins set to 0.75".


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
The only solution is to create your own default templates and/or never use the Normal(0.75") setting and opt for the Normal(1"), or some other, setting instead. 

OpenGL is not being used.
Comment 1 [REDACTED] 2021-01-26 14:27:45 UTC
no repro (using a fresh user profile)

Version: 7.0.4.2
Build ID: dcf040e67528d9187c66b2379df5ea4407429775
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.3; UI render: default; VCL: kf5
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 2 Bob 2021-01-26 17:40:14 UTC
Sorry, but I just rechecked and every default template I checked was set to A4 paper size instead of the Letter paper size used in the US, which I suspect is part of the issue with not only the right margin being messed up (set to 0.79" instead of 0.75") but also perhaps the issue I reported earlier concerning the text tearing issue (if it is indeed the result of a rounding error as suggested and the program is using the wrong paper size in its calculations (perhaps its not using the displayed paper size but remembering the default paper size)).
Comment 3 Xisco Faulí 2021-01-28 09:37:47 UTC
Thanks for reporting this issue.
Could you please paste the info from Help - about LibreOffice ?

I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to
'UNCONFIRMED' once the information has been provided
Comment 4 BogdanB 2021-01-30 06:44:42 UTC
spokanemagneto, what version are you using? Maybe you are using an old version, and the problem is solved in a new version.

Go to Help - About LibreOffice and copy that techincal info from there. And paste here in the bug report.

Thanks
Comment 5 Bob 2021-01-30 20:45:16 UTC
(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #3)
> Thanks for reporting this issue.
> Could you please paste the info from Help - about LibreOffice ?
> 
> I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to
> 'UNCONFIRMED' once the information has been provided


I am not sure I understand what you are getting at. Of what importance is the content of the help menu in resolving this issue? And, why can't you simply look at it yourself without me having to copy and paste it here? The fact is that the default paper size for the United States is Letter--not A4, which is a problem in and of itself, but I believe it is also a possible root cause of the incorrect margin issue (especially in the Normal(0.75") setting).
Comment 6 Bob 2021-01-30 20:47:00 UTC
(In reply to BogdanB from comment #4)
> spokanemagneto, what version are you using? Maybe you are using an old
> version, and the problem is solved in a new version.
> 
> Go to Help - About LibreOffice and copy that techincal info from there. And
> paste here in the bug report.
> 
> Thanks

Please take note of the version listed above, directly below Product and then Component. This is the latest release version.
Comment 7 QA Administrators 2021-01-31 04:49:14 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 8 Bob 2021-01-31 21:39:46 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 9 Bob 2021-02-22 00:00:10 UTC
(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #3)
> Thanks for reporting this issue.
> Could you please paste the info from Help - about LibreOffice ?
> 
> I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to
> 'UNCONFIRMED' once the information has been provided



Ah, now I see what you were requesting. You did not mean for me to paste the Help menu itself. What you apparently meant to ask, and thus wanted to see, was the Help > About LibreOffice dialog box contents. There does not appear to be any way to copy and paste that dialog box.
Comment 10 Bob 2021-02-22 01:50:06 UTC
Now I figured out how to copy that information you wanted from the dialog box. I never really took too much notice of that lone icon in the Help > About LibreOffice dialog box before because it appears to be grayed out (a functional product design issue that should be addressed, both on that particular drop-down menu page as well as on the online bug report page (i.e., there ought to be directions on where and how to obtain that Version Information on the bug report form to aid in the process for those reporting bugs)).  

Even if that icon did not appear to be grayed out, the reason I prefer drop-down menus over icons is because there is virtually no consistency from one program to another with regards the iconography, which means one spends more time pondering the meaning of the symbol instead of actually doing something productive. 

At any rate, for whatever it's worth, here is the information your requested:

Version: 7.0.4.2 (x64)
Build ID: dcf040e67528d9187c66b2379df5ea4407429775
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: default; VCL: win
Locale: en-US (en_US); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 11 Kevin 2021-04-24 22:50:09 UTC
I can confirm this. Both of my Windows 10 computers had their default page format changed from letter to A4 after the upgrade to version 7.0.5.2 (prior version 6.X). 

Information from Help->About:

Version: 7.0.5.2 (x64)
Build ID: 64390860c6cd0aca4beafafcfd84613dd9dfb63a
CPU threads: 2; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: en-US (en_US); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 12 Jean-Baptiste Faure 2021-08-24 16:46:21 UTC
I have the contrary for LibreOffice 7.1 and 7.2 in French: the default page size is set to Letter instead of A4.

Version: 7.2.1.0.0+ / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 26adaed995097a160063b54a9d2a8d81b34f145d
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.11; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); UI: fr-FR
Ubuntu_20.04_x86-64
Calc: threaded

Version: 7.1.7.0.0+ / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: b8b3abc864e81c6ea76043a65ce234ada8651341
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.11; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); UI: fr-FR
Ubuntu_20.04_x86-64
Calc: threaded

Best regards. JBF
Comment 14 Jean-Baptiste Faure 2021-08-24 18:34:29 UTC
(In reply to himajin100000 from comment #13)
> https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/i18nutil/source/utility/paper.
> cxx?r=6d4a1716#227

Thank you very much!  Added 
PAPERSIZE="a4"
in .profile
and 
export PAPERSIZE="a4"
in .bashrc

That solved the problem for me under Ubuntu 20.04

Best regards. JBF
Comment 15 Jean-Baptiste Faure 2021-08-24 18:43:30 UTC
(In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #14)
> (In reply to himajin100000 from comment #13)
> > https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/i18nutil/source/utility/paper.
> > cxx?r=6d4a1716#227
> 
> Thank you very much!  Added 
> PAPERSIZE="a4"
> in .profile
> and 
> export PAPERSIZE="a4"
> in .bashrc
> 
> That solved the problem for me under Ubuntu 20.04
> 
> Best regards. JBF

Sorry, correct command in .profile is the same as in .bashrc.

Best regards. JBF
Comment 16 Dieter 2022-08-25 04:59:22 UTC
Hello Bob, a new major release of LibreOffice is available since this bug was reported. Could you please try to reproduce it with the latest version of LibreOffice from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ ?
I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to 'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug is still present in the latest version.
Comment 17 QA Administrators 2023-02-22 03:22:24 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 18 QA Administrators 2023-03-25 03:24:14 UTC
Dear Bob,

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