Bug 140196 - There is a bullet size difference between ODT <-> DOCX
Summary: There is a bullet size difference between ODT <-> DOCX
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 85964
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.2.0.0.alpha0+
Hardware: All All
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Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: filter:docx
Depends on:
Blocks: DOCX-Bullet-Number-Outline-Lists
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Reported: 2021-02-05 18:56 UTC by Telesto
Modified: 2021-03-31 08:59 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Screenshot of the original document and its docx version side by side in Writer (192.43 KB, image/png)
2021-02-08 12:38 UTC, NISZ LibreOffice Team
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Description Telesto 2021-02-05 18:56:13 UTC
Description:
There is a bullet size difference between ODT <-> DOCX

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open attachment 169508 [details]
2. Save a copy as DOCX
3. Open the copy; both maximized. and switch between both documents.. notice shifting (caused by bullet size)

Which apparently comes become between difference of 'OpenSymbol' versus 'Symbol' font

Actual Results:
Shift

Expected Results:
Picking a somewhat similar sized bullet compared to Symbol? U+E12C


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 3ed9bba283a6a67864c0928186e277240be0d9ba
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL); UI: en-US
Calc: CL
Comment 1 Telesto 2021-02-05 18:57:03 UTC
Not sure in which direction this should be solved.. If it's possible to pick different bullet for DOCX. Currently conversion simply weird
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2021-02-08 09:28:51 UTC
Getting the same bullet. OpenSymbol is available on my system whatever document format I use. Do you talk about cross-platform compatibility?
Comment 3 Telesto 2021-02-08 11:25:59 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Getting the same bullet. OpenSymbol is available on my system whatever
> document format I use. Do you talk about cross-platform compatibility?

DOCX filters having a habit to convert/match stuff to something else as a feature. So someone assumed Word users not having OpenSymbol.. converting those to 'Symbol' in the DOCX filter 
[Same habit as Liberation Sans of Calc being converted to Arial on save to XLS/ XLSX)

I doubt the current chosen 'Symbol' being the best match. Or OpenSymbol is available everywhere nowadays at MSO at this conversion step can be dropped.

And in principle I find this 'compatibility stuff' must a setting/configurable (on/off). I feel lacking control.. and nice to have list of things which get converted (which explains certain changes). It so an educational purpose. 

Putting this in help under 'compatibility DOCX' on page 220 footnote 2000 second paragraph, well... 

But well GUI wise, well.. considered putting under advanced.. but that's such a big list (OK proper caption might work)
Comment 4 NISZ LibreOffice Team 2021-02-08 12:38:45 UTC
Created attachment 169584 [details]
Screenshot of the original document and its docx version side by side in Writer

I see this happening, in:

Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 44b914b1e2616ca8f70e896e653a46ca93610234
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: default; VCL: win
Locale: en-US (hu_HU); UI: en-GB
Calc: CL

When moving the cursor to the bullet symbol, in ODT the font name is "OpenSymbol;Arial Unicode MS" while in DOCX it is "Liberation Serif".
Comment 5 NISZ LibreOffice Team 2021-02-08 12:41:51 UTC
Very similar to bug #106471 - but there an OpenSymbol diamond symbol becomes TNR and so grows in size.
Comment 6 Justin L 2021-03-31 08:59:10 UTC
Everything described here sound identical to bug 85964.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 85964 ***