Bug 140550 - Gallery Business Consultancy Diagrams: add a wheel diagram
Summary: Gallery Business Consultancy Diagrams: add a wheel diagram
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 37932
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.2.0.0.alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsUXEval
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2021-02-20 09:04 UTC by Telesto
Modified: 2021-04-07 10:45 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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2021-02-20 09:04 UTC, Telesto
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Description Telesto 2021-02-20 09:04:02 UTC
Description:
Gallery Business Consultancy Diagrams: add a wheel diagram

Steps to Reproduce:
Me looking into Business Strategy diagrams (for a difference). There are so many (common) models not present in LibreOffice.

And designers love to design fancy stuff :P. Search online and you find enough 'template' business diagrams; not present yet in LibreOffice

And those things look fancy, so should be somewhat nice to design? 

The wheel diagram is a concrete suggestion (there is more)

Actual Results:
Lacking Business Strategy diagrams

Expected Results:
More build in diagrams (or by extension)


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 28555fc345ac2ccdda0e4e0f3c812c646befe68b
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL); UI: en-US
Calc: CL
Comment 1 Telesto 2021-02-20 09:04:22 UTC
Created attachment 169909 [details]
Screenshot
Comment 2 Julien Nabet 2021-02-20 13:07:23 UTC
Just personal opinion but I'd prefer putting resources to fix existing bugs instead of adding new features. My "extreme" personal opinion (but I must be the only one :-)), let's stop adding features until the number of bugs really decreases.

Just an example when switching to another User interface than Standard, you're bound to encounter different bugs. Personally, I'd remove these other interfaces which seem not really maintained anymore.
Another example sidebar has still synchro pbs with the rest of the interface.
Finally consider icon themes which still have missing icons.

(I talked about just UI bugs to stay on UI topic)
Comment 3 Telesto 2021-02-20 14:22:41 UTC
(In reply to Julien Nabet from comment #2)
> Just personal opinion but I'd prefer putting resources to fix existing bugs
> instead of adding new features. My "extreme" personal opinion (but I must be
> the only one :-)), let's stop adding features until the number of bugs
> really decreases.

I surely agree on bugfix part :P. Still in search for pot of gold. Or silver. Palladium. And still trying to Collabora to care more about bugs. Instead of bugfix by SLA. I happy to pay 20 euro a year for some license. But refuse paying 20.000 to have my own SLA contract. Obviously entailing solving all the bugs reported by me :P (history and upcoming)

But the resource drain on this bug should pretty minimal (would even go as far as non-existent). Kind of task of the design people; mostly not involved with 'regular bugs'. 

But obviously getting the drift of Julien. If this entails using limited resources, please let drift.. 

Still liking the have those idea's floating around the bug tracker, though. Not-reporting is because having already that many stuff, shouldn't be a reason for not  reporting or closing. But that's my take

> Just an example when switching to another User interface than Standard,
> you're bound to encounter different bugs. Personally, I'd remove these other
> interfaces which seem not really maintained anymore.
> Another example sidebar has still synchro pbs with the rest of the interface.
> Finally consider icon themes which still have missing icons.
> 
> (I talked about just UI bugs to stay on UI topic)

Did I miss that one, may I have bug number? Or drop me in CC list
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2021-02-22 09:56:47 UTC
We do have a nice BPMN template that should cover all needs. What are you missing?
Comment 5 Telesto 2021-02-22 12:05:25 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)
> We do have a nice BPMN template that should cover all needs. What are you
> missing?

See attached screenshot for a suggestion
Comment 6 andreas_k 2021-02-22 12:27:00 UTC
Hi Telesto,

sure there are way more good looking and missing stuff in LibO Impress. My goal was not to have all stuff available within LibO galleries.

When I did the gallery stuff rework to goal was:
1. have nice looking stuff
2. you can combine all gallery items
3. you can easy edit the single gallery items
4. show the benefits of LibO

So the result was to define a default grid, so each gallery item can be aranged and combined. I know the alignment stuff in MSO is cooler, but LibO has also usefull alignment options. So gallery items can be used with the LibO alignment.

MSO has a theming support, so a user can use a predefined theme and all elements will follow this theme. LibO has a good working sidebar with area and line settings. If you add an gallery item you can select all items and edit them with area and line settings.

LibO gallery items didn't have one specific theme style, they use very different styles, to show the uesers what's possible. You can edit each single gallery item to any specific style. That's one benefit compare to predefined MS themes where everybody know it's a powerpoint presentation.

All gallery items use LibO Shapes which can than be easy edited by size, aspect ratio, ...
Comment 7 andreas_k 2021-02-22 12:32:11 UTC
(In reply to Telesto from comment #1)
> Created attachment 169909 [details]
> Screenshot

It's not possible to draw donut elements and the text was correct align. So in the end if you want to have such kind of layout, the drawing contain of single elements and the text to.

If you have such kind of gallery item it may look good and you can edit with area and line fill elements, but the overall drawing is not flexible. 

So I don't see any benefit of have this within LibO cause it didn't show that there is any benefit to do it within LibO impress.
Comment 8 Heiko Tietze 2021-02-23 13:59:48 UTC
(In reply to Telesto from comment #5)
> (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)
> > We do have a nice BPMN template that should cover all needs. What are you
> > missing?
> 
> See attached screenshot for a suggestion

This is a diagram and better realized per SmartArt than via BPMN template. See also 37932.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 37932 ***
Comment 9 AndiDuferense 2021-04-07 10:45:42 UTC Comment hidden (spam)