Bug 141250 - Rename Master Document
Summary: Rename Master Document
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
unspecified
Hardware: All All
: medium trivial
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Keywords: needsUXEval
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Reported: 2021-03-25 15:51 UTC by Heiko Tietze
Modified: 2021-04-15 07:05 UTC (History)
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Description Heiko Tietze 2021-03-25 15:51:28 UTC
As the term "master" might be perceived as offensive we should change in the UI. Could be "Global Document".

(See also discussion at ESC from 2021-Mar-25)
Comment 1 Andras Timar 2021-03-25 16:13:48 UTC
Just an idea: when you do this, can you please do an atomic change in translations module and Weblate as well? So 100+ translation teams do not have to re-translate the changes.
Comment 2 V Stuart Foote 2021-03-25 20:35:38 UTC
Dammn, who's driving this nonsense?

Just no! There is nothing wrong with a 'Master' document as container for component documents.

=-ref-=

https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3442

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-knodel-terminology-02
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2021-03-26 07:50:35 UTC
Seeking for more input.
Comment 4 Julien Nabet 2021-03-26 17:59:36 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2)
> Dammn, who's driving this nonsense?
> 
> Just no! There is nothing wrong with a 'Master' document as container for
> component documents.
> 
> =-ref-=
> 
> https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3442
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-knodel-terminology-02

100% agreed with you but it seems that like me, you're considered in the evil/wrong side :-)
See these for some related messages about all this nonsense:
http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/ANN-renaming-of-master-branch-to-quot-main-quot-for-core-repository-and-submodules-dictionaries-help-tt4297527.html

http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/ESC-meeting-agenda-2021-03-25-16-00-Berlin-time-tt4297935.html

It seems already decided whatever some may say, so we can just ironize about all this with bitterness...
Comment 5 Roman Kuznetsov 2021-03-26 18:37:59 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2)
> Dammn, who's driving this nonsense?
> 
> Just no! There is nothing wrong with a 'Master' document as container for
> component documents.
> 
> =-ref-=
> 
> https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3442
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-knodel-terminology-02

Fully agree! It's just a monkey imitation! May be some people in the World just became crazy, but I hope we all in our community still have normal brains.
Comment 6 Daveo 2021-03-27 09:14:34 UTC
Can we please put an end to this ridiculous nonsense. There is no justification for this project to join in the bastardization (https://tinyurl.com/yzequ3n2) of the English language. Why do we feel it is critical to make this kind of change, just because someone comes along with some fanciful idea about a word being in some way politically incorrect. Now we will waste time and energy on a pointless debate about inventing an inappropriate, non-nonsensical alternative.

If this is approved, we must very seriously consider changing other terms the project uses, like  black, brown, red, white, in case there might be someone, somewhere on the planet who finds these terms to be potentially offensive.
Comment 7 Rizal Muttaqin 2021-03-28 12:21:01 UTC
Quite uneccessary. A "Master Document" is a perfect term. LibO has nothing to do with slavery.
Comment 8 Rizal Muttaqin 2021-03-28 12:44:44 UTC
Quite uneccessary. A "Master Document" is a perfect term. LibO has nothing to do with slavery.

Beside, how we deal with the file extension which is currently CMIIW "OpenDocument Master" with .odm extension name?
Comment 9 Petr Valach 2021-03-28 14:00:27 UTC
The foundation called on the AOO to do the "right thing"; I dare to urge everyone to continue to do good things and not change what is good.

Thank you for understanding.
Comment 10 Drew Jensen 2021-03-28 15:44:42 UTC
Please don't!
Comment 11 Heiko Tietze 2021-04-12 09:35:55 UTC
No acceptance for the proposal, resolving WF.