Bug 141720 - Add Gutter Margin in Page Margin drop down menu of layout tab of Tabbed interface
Summary: Add Gutter Margin in Page Margin drop down menu of layout tab of Tabbed inter...
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
(earliest affected)
Hardware: All All
: low enhancement
Assignee: Justin L
Whiteboard: target:24.2.0
Depends on:
Blocks: Notebookbar-Tabbed Gutter-Margins
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Reported: 2021-04-17 02:48 UTC by Rizal Muttaqin
Modified: 2023-07-25 00:06 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Page Margin dropdown (14.92 KB, image/png)
2021-04-17 02:48 UTC, Rizal Muttaqin

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Description Rizal Muttaqin 2021-04-17 02:48:16 UTC
Created attachment 171247 [details]
Page Margin dropdown

As tdf#91920 has been resolved, the functionality should come to another part of UI, let's say the dropdown menu of Page Margins of Layout Tab in Tabbed interface (aka Ribbon-like interface).

At least two options should be placed there: Gutter and Gutter Position

Step to reproduce:
1. Enable Tabbed interface in Writer
2. Go to Layout tab see Page Margin

Build ID: 77419c6f3aba1fd5b1660795923c22a39bdb1bad
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 5.4; UI render: default; VCL: kf5
Locale: id-ID (id_ID.UTF-8); UI: qtz
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@86-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2021-04-14_02:39:26
Calc: threaded
Comment 1 andreas_k 2021-04-17 12:20:31 UTC
Can you make a mockup where this gutter stuff should be located. I had a look in Word, but there it is located at the page dialog page.

What can be a good idea is to located the page dialog command left to Page Margins so that you have full control with the very left command in the Layout tab.
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2021-04-19 15:24:27 UTC
Is the gutter a property that is broadly known and frequently used? Or something for experts, confusing average users and not suited for quick access.
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2021-05-01 08:10:50 UTC
We discussed the topic in the design meeting.

The gutter is an expert property and most users neither know it nor need to apply it. Plus, even for the experts there is no need to change it frequently (which is the reason for a prominent place). Another argument against the enhancement is the fact that this widget is named "Margins".

While this makes the request a WF, the widget is placed on a Notebookbar with plenty of space. And the gutter might be added additionally.
Comment 4 Justin L 2023-06-29 15:30:00 UTC
At best, I could see adding a "more options" (same as Page Size/Columns).
Comment 5 Commit Notification 2023-06-30 17:14:37 UTC
Justin Luth committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":


tdf#141720 sw pagemargincontrol: add more options

It will be available in 24.2.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 6 Rizal Muttaqin 2023-07-25 00:06:34 UTC
(In reply to Commit Notification from comment #5)
> Justin Luth committed a patch related to this issue.
Thank you Justin, I think the More Options is enough.