Bug 141801 - Track changes: Add attribute frame/border
Summary: Track changes: Add attribute frame/border
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.1.2.2 release
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Blocks: Track-Changes Options-Dialog-Writer
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Reported: 2021-04-21 13:37 UTC by 10686639125
Modified: 2021-12-19 14:40 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Settings now (36.50 KB, image/png)
2021-04-21 13:38 UTC, 10686639125
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I need (5.63 KB, image/png)
2021-04-21 13:39 UTC, 10686639125
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select from styles (22.78 KB, image/png)
2021-04-21 13:40 UTC, 10686639125
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simple character attribute assigned borders for selection, need similar as TC delete mode (62.41 KB, image/png)
2021-05-10 15:22 UTC, V Stuart Foote
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Description 10686639125 2021-04-21 13:37:48 UTC
Description:
Now LO provides some styles for Deletions and Insertions.
However, users need more.
Could you support select Syles for them?

Steps to Reproduce:
Tools - Options - LO Writer - Changes

Actual Results:
users need more

Expected Results:
See my need from attachments.


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: Yes



Additional Info:
Version: 7.1.2.2 (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 8a45595d069ef5570103caea1b71cc9d82b2aae4
CPU threads: 6; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: en-US; UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 1 10686639125 2021-04-21 13:38:46 UTC
Created attachment 171333 [details]
Settings now
Comment 2 10686639125 2021-04-21 13:39:18 UTC
Created attachment 171334 [details]
I need
Comment 3 10686639125 2021-04-21 13:40:03 UTC
Created attachment 171335 [details]
select from styles
Comment 4 Dieter 2021-05-06 06:04:17 UTC
Thank you for your enhancement request. Let's ask design-team for their opinion. Personally i don't see the need for this enhancement, I'm in doubt, that a lo of user needs it.
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2021-05-07 08:13:25 UTC
Don't mix track changes with paragraph styles (PS). PS format the text with various attributes while TC is shown on top this style with one attribute out of a limited number of options.

What you may want is a character style. But what is the use case that requires complex pattern?
Comment 6 10686639125 2021-05-07 14:18:05 UTC
In Chinese culture, we frame deleted objects or dead people with Line arrangement, just as the image "I need" and that's why I made this feature request.
But I'm not sure if others would have other needs.
Comment 7 QA Administrators 2021-05-08 03:56:13 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 8 Heiko Tietze 2021-05-10 10:43:14 UTC
Michael, is it possible to assign a character style to TC? This would make it much more flexible - although I guess this request is a corner case.
Comment 9 Michael Stahl (allotropia) 2021-05-10 12:03:04 UTC
a character style isn't possible currently.

but if any character attribute are missing those could be added to the dialog, like character border.
Comment 10 10686639125 2021-05-10 12:47:13 UTC
(In reply to Michael Stahl (allotropia) from comment #9)
> a character style isn't possible currently.
> 
> but if any character attribute are missing those could be added to the
> dialog, like character border.

Thank you very much.

Character border enough for me at the moment.
Comment 11 Heiko Tietze 2021-05-10 13:24:50 UTC
(In reply to 10686639125 from comment #6)
> In Chinese culture, we frame deleted objects...

Could you please provide proof that your request is not just your personal view but a standard?
Comment 12 10686639125 2021-05-10 13:41:40 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #11)
> (In reply to 10686639125 from comment #6)
> > In Chinese culture, we frame deleted objects...
> 
> Could you please provide proof that your request is not just your personal
> view but a standard?

https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh/%E7%A4%BA%E4%BA%A1%E5%8F%B7

Same as Dagger in English

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagger_(typography)
Comment 13 V Stuart Foote 2021-05-10 14:16:54 UTC
(In reply to 10686639125 from comment #12)
> 
> https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh/%E7%A4%BA%E4%BA%A1%E5%8F%B7
> 
> Same as Dagger in English
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagger_(typography)

Request is valid, but a 'borders' (top,right,bottom,left) character attribute should suffice for the practice.
Comment 14 10686639125 2021-05-10 14:44:46 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #13)
> (In reply to 10686639125 from comment #12)
> > 
> > https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh/%E7%A4%BA%E4%BA%A1%E5%8F%B7
> > 
> > Same as Dagger in English
> > 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagger_(typography)
> 
> Request is valid, but a 'borders' (top,right,bottom,left) character
> attribute should suffice for the practice.

The default settings of Microsoft word are generally used in practice.
Comment 15 V Stuart Foote 2021-05-10 15:22:03 UTC
Created attachment 171831 [details]
simple character attribute assigned borders for selection, need similar as TC delete mode

(In reply to 10686639125 from comment #14)
 
> The default settings of Microsoft word are generally used in practice.

Not that I can find. 

But here is a clip not from TC (not implemented there), but of selecting and applying the border char attribute to the selection. Would have to implemented as new mode to do it with TC handling.
Comment 16 10686639125 2021-05-10 15:41:13 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #15)
> Created attachment 171831 [details]
> simple character attribute assigned borders for selection, need similar as
> TC delete mode
> 
> (In reply to 10686639125 from comment #14)
>  
> > The default settings of Microsoft word are generally used in practice.
> 
> Not that I can find. 
> 
> But here is a clip not from TC (not implemented there), but of selecting and
> applying the border char attribute to the selection. Would have to
> implemented as new mode to do it with TC handling.

Yeah, I mean the clip style of selecting in Microsoft word.
Comment 17 10686639125 2021-05-10 15:43:00 UTC
With Selection.Font.Borders(1)
    If .LineStyle = wdLineStyleNone Then
       .LineStyle = Options.DefaultBorderLineStyle
       .LineWidth = Options.DefaultBorderLineWidth
       .Color = Options.DefaultBorderColor
    Else
       .LineStyle = wdLineStyleNone
    End If
End With
Comment 18 Heiko Tietze 2021-05-17 14:40:39 UTC
So let's add this character attribute (if using character style is not possible). Making insertion bold is possible out of the box (Tools > Options > Writer > Changes: Attributes). The patch would add another entry perhaps with the label "Frame".
Comment 19 10686639125 2021-05-18 00:14:21 UTC
yes
Comment 20 林博仁(Buo-Ren Lin) 2021-05-21 13:06:52 UTC
I'd like to add a reference from W3C regarding this usage: https://w3c.github.io/clreq/#symbol_of_death

And an actual usage example from Wikipedia: https://web.archive.org/web/20190726093224/https://rid3490.org.tw/upload/news/20120327124454.jpeg