Description: The sidebar settings icon design is differs from theme to theme. This can make it difficult for beginners to find them. Steps to Reproduce: 1. Check the sidebar settings icon design. The sidebar settings icon is the icon on the right side of the sidebar, at the top. 2. Open manu [Tool] -> [Options], Click LibreOffice -> View, and Change the current icon design. 3. Check the sidebar settings icon design again. Icons are designed differently depending on the theme, as shown below. * Colibre: 3dots * Elementary: Gear * Sukapura: Hamburger * Breeze: 3dots * Karasa Jaga: Hamburger * Sifr: 3dots Actual Results: The design is so different that beginners cannot find the icons. Expected Results: The design is the same, so even a beginner can find it. Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: No Additional Info: Version: 7.1.3.2 (x64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 47f78053abe362b9384784d31a6e56f8511eb1c1 CPU threads: 2; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19043; UI render: default; VCL: win Locale: ja-JP (ja_JP); UI: ja-JP Calc: threaded
Created attachment 172217 [details] Different icons screenshot
How is this an Accessibility issue? Otherwise, selecting different icon theme is a more advanced user customization. We are not obliged to maintain consistent iconography across icon themes. Icon theme designers have chosen three motifs for the 'Sidebar settings' icon: a gear, vertical elipsis, or hamburger. A legitimate concern could be that the online-help and user guides may show one theme's icon or another, but no real issue. IMHO NAB and => WF
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2) I think that's not true. I'm a Linux user. My friend is a Windows user. When my friend phone called and asked me about the sidebar, he was very confused by the different icons. If the file open icon is anything other than a folder, many people will be confused. I think the icons should look different, but the motif should be the same.
Rizal, Andreas: Should we have the same icon design at all themes for primary navigation such as the sidebar's context menu? Or rather freedom for the designers?
I don't see an big issue here. LibreOffice has various icon themes, as long as you have more than one icon theme, this is an issue about help, documentation, ...
(In reply to Jun Nogata from comment #3) > I'm a Linux user. My friend is a Windows user. When my friend phone called > and asked me about the sidebar, he was very confused by the different icons. > Simply change your icon theme to follow your friends. In fact, consistency must be maintained within the same icon theme, not between different themes. Beside that "more options/settings" or such, nowadays has many appearances. For example browser: Firefox uses three line hamburger, Chrome uses vertical three dots, Edge uses horizontal three dots, Opera uses three lines with sliders. Should we shout to them to unify?
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #5) > I don't see an big issue here. (In reply to Rizal Muttaqin from comment #6) > Simply change your icon theme to follow your friends. I agree with NAB.
I agree with NAB too; just wanted to highlight Jun’s point that having wildly different motifs/metaphors across icon themes has implications for documentation writing; one has to be careful to refer to icons by their position and not their shape, which may or may not represent a complication. So let’s be judicious in that aspect, while not erring in the side of monoculture (which is why I hate things like the stupid, user-hostile “Don’t theme my app” over at GNOME).