Bug 143187 - Calc: Delete Tools>Options>LibreOffice Calc>Compatibility page
Summary: Calc: Delete Tools>Options>LibreOffice Calc>Compatibility page
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
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7.3.0.0 alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: lowest enhancement
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Blocks: Options-Dialog-Calc
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Reported: 2021-07-04 20:37 UTC by Roman Kuznetsov
Modified: 2024-02-29 14:35 UTC (History)
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Description Roman Kuznetsov 2021-07-04 20:37:03 UTC
Description:
Calc: Delete Tools>Options>LibreOffice Calc>Compatibility page

There is only one otion there: key bindings LO vs OOo. Why it needs for anyone now? OOo is dead long time ago

So I suggest delete that option page at all

Steps to Reproduce:
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Actual Results:
We have unneeded option page for Calc key bindings selecting where can choose between LO and OOo (that is dead)

Expected Results:
We don't have unneeded option page for Calc key bindings selecting where can choose between LO and OOo (that is dead)


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



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Comment 1 Heiko Tietze 2021-07-05 07:52:32 UTC
I second this request. Eike, any concerns?
Comment 2 Eike Rathke 2021-07-05 08:24:33 UTC
Yes, I have concerns.
Even if it may be that OOo is dead,
a) there are still users beating that dead horse, so if they wish to ride a fresh one..
but more importantly,
b) there are current users of LO who prefer the compatibility behaviour, for detailed differences see https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/shared/optionen/01060800.html
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2021-07-05 09:07:05 UTC
(In reply to Eike Rathke from comment #2)
> ...there are still users beating that dead horse

How about turning this into an expert option?
Comment 4 V Stuart Foote 2021-07-05 12:50:00 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> (In reply to Eike Rathke from comment #2)
> > ...there are still users beating that dead horse
> 
> How about turning this into an expert option?

+1
Comment 5 NISZ LibreOffice Team 2021-07-06 11:37:46 UTC
Another idea to reduce the number of configuration tabs: move the Key Bindings setting to the Defaults tab which has two settings and plenty of screen free estate.

Also... I know you are bored with my obsession, but how about keeping this setting and reinvigorate it by creating a new binding set called "MSO"?

For "rare" cases like my old bug 116788 and maybe a few similar others.

There might be some OOo users around who like this keybinding set, but the real millions of potential users are on Excel, and learning new key combinations for no better reason than "It's different here" is not helping them.

Cheers
Gabor
Comment 6 Heiko Tietze 2021-07-06 17:01:37 UTC
(In reply to NISZ LibreOffice Team from comment #5)
> Another idea to reduce the number of configuration tabs: move the Key
> Bindings setting to the Defaults tab which has two settings and plenty of
> screen free estate.

Sounds also good, and even easier to do. But the point of Excel keybinding shows how weird this option is. We have bug 123768 requesting this with the idea to put it into templates.
Comment 7 Thomas Lendo 2022-02-22 12:13:57 UTC
(In reply to NISZ LibreOffice Team from comment #5)
> Another idea to reduce the number of configuration tabs: move the Key
> Bindings setting to the Defaults tab which has two settings and plenty of
> screen free estate.
+1
Comment 8 Heiko Tietze 2022-02-24 14:47:56 UTC
We discussed the topic in the design meeting.

The option is pointless and confusing, has a negative impact on usability, and makes false expectations to switch the full shortcut customization. Hiding as far as possible from users is best (expert option). But if this involves more effort than moving it to the General tab the alternative solution is an improvement too.
Comment 9 Timur 2022-02-25 06:57:44 UTC
I mark Lowest because in the end I don't see enhancement here, just an unnecessary change that will affect eventual users.
Comment 10 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2024-02-29 06:17:54 UTC
Since 24.2 and the fix for bug 156611, we have a "Hyperlinks" option in there.
Close as "won't fix"?
Comment 11 Heiko Tietze 2024-02-29 14:13:41 UTC
Two options make no tab. Hyperlink (whatever this means regarding compatibility) could go to Load/Save or one of the other Calc-related tabs.
Comment 12 V Stuart Foote 2024-02-29 14:35:11 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #11)
> Two options make no tab. Hyperlink (whatever this means regarding
> compatibility) could go to Load/Save or one of the other Calc-related tabs.

Well, if bug 123768 for extension based shortcuts/accelerators ever lands we'll need some place to expose options in each of the modules. Seems like a Compatibility tab, but for each module, would continue to be the appropriate location.

Also as a potential enhancement, recent dustup over mass shortcut changes for bug 159743 suggest users would still be well served with a Compatibility tab when "localization" efforts cause disruption to be able to conveniently adopt behavior of a different locale.

In other words, a lot could be done with the Compatibility tab.

-1 to delete it out of hand.