Bug 145029 - UI: Add-animation requires adding before choosing the effect
Summary: UI: Add-animation requires adding before choosing the effect
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Impress (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.3.0.0 alpha0+
Hardware: All All
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Assignee: Not Assigned
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: 154127 (view as bug list)
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Blocks: Sidebar-Animation
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Reported: 2021-10-10 07:12 UTC by Telesto
Modified: 2023-03-13 15:47 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Telesto 2021-10-10 07:12:13 UTC
Description:
UI: Add animation workflow kind of curious

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open Impress (ignore wizard)
2. Sidebar -> Animation Tab
3. Click the text frame.
4. Click + sign -> You need to add the animation first: you can't choose first
5. Click the same frame again
6. If you want to add new animation you need to '+' before. If you're in pre-configure mode you actually change the existing animation.  

Actual Results:
You need to add the animation first: you can't choose first


Expected Results:
In Powerpoint you can add/remove an effect but not change the type of effect after insertion in the list. Which being one way the work around this



Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
Version: 7.3.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 93115d2c54d645bcf2f80fde325e3ede39dee4d5
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: en-US (nl_NL); UI: en-US
Calc: CL
Comment 1 Heiko Tietze 2022-11-07 10:07:38 UTC
I see no issue in clicking Add before picking the attributes. But anyway, this topic is discussed so often that we likely have duplicates. I remember a discussion where we pondered over moving the controls to the bottom (cannot find). => resolving NAB (it is clearly not a bug)
Comment 2 Telesto 2022-11-07 11:00:32 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> I see no issue in clicking Add before picking the attributes. But anyway,
> this topic is discussed so often that we likely have duplicates. I remember
> a discussion where we pondered over moving the controls to the bottom
> (cannot find). => resolving NAB (it is clearly not a bug)

It's indeed (implicitly) covered by bug 151377
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2023-03-13 11:46:50 UTC
*** Bug 154127 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Eyal Rozenberg 2023-03-13 13:11:29 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> I see no issue in clicking Add before picking the attributes. 

Coming from the dupe, I'll say: Picking specific attributes, fair enough - but picking the kind of effect - I definitely expect to choosen that before adding the effect - I don't want to add an effect I'm not interested. Even the effect _category_ can't be selected, i.e. one needs to add an Entrance effect even if one wants to make the object go away.

This is surprising, frustrating and not necessary.

It is also inconsistent with, for example, the draw toolbar, where you choose the kind of drawing object before actually drawing it; the tabs dialog where you choose the kind of tab before placing it; etc.
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2023-03-13 15:00:58 UTC
No use case, no issue. Surprising and frustrating is an overstatement and never merits the effort to start from scratch. And the OP agreed with the proposed solution, call it workaround if you like.
Comment 6 Telesto 2023-03-13 15:34:16 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> No use case, no issue. Surprising and frustrating is an overstatement and
> never merits the effort to start from scratch. And the OP agreed with the
> proposed solution, call it workaround if you like.

FWIW: I do agree Eyal's view and argument. I struggle with exactly the same thing :-). And I surely find the PowerPoint implementation at bug 151377 comment 12 more natural compared to the current implementation.
Comment 7 Eyal Rozenberg 2023-03-13 15:47:30 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> No use case, no issue.

I think perhaps you're referring to another bug? This is not a feature request.

We are forcing users to do something they don't want, in order to then achieve something they do want. It is as though in order to draw a circle, you had to add draw a square, then change its shape in some properties menu. ... and actually, even worse, because if you have auto-preview enabled, you will also be treated to the animated sequence showing you exactly what you don't want to happen :-P

> never merits the effort to start from scratch. 

I didn't suggest starting anything from scratch. I just want to be able to make a selection in the effect type list-box before adding the effect. There could of course be other UI changes to the animations sidebar, but this bug is not about that.

I'll also clarify that, unlike Telesto, I'm not suggesting we remove the possibility of changing the effect type after addition - just that we allow it before addition.


> And the OP agreed with the
> proposed solution, call it workaround if you like.

If you want to cancel the dupe relation to the bug I filed, we can continue the discussion there...