Created attachment 178715 [details] Notice how the subtitle occupies the center position of the slide The "Title" box in the Title slide layout is currently not the focus of the Title slide layout with the subtitle box occupying the central location of the slide in this layout. This makes the Title slide layout nearly the same as the Title, Content layout where indeed focus on content is key and the Text box occupies the central location on the slide. The title box in the Title layout and Title, Content layout are located in the same position in the slide in both contents. Furthermore, the descriptive text inside the subtitle box reads "Click to add Text". Considering this I would like to request the following: 1 - Resize and shift the position down of the "Click to add Text" text box so that it does not occupy the central position or the majority of space in the Title Slide. 2 - Change the text in the text box from "Click to add Text" to "Click to add Subtitle" so that it becomes clearer that this box is for the less important subtitle. 3 - Decrease text size of subtitle box so that it is more clear that it's not the main focus of attention of this slide. 3 - Shift the position of the "Click to add Title" box to a more central position in the slide. This box should be the focus of a Title slide since this is the name of the layout and not "Title, subtitle layout".
Created attachment 178716 [details] WPS slide layouts
Created attachment 178717 [details] Slides slides layout
Created attachment 178718 [details] Powerpoint slide layout As you can notice in other Office suites, the Title occupies a center position on the slide where a viewers eyes will focus immediately since that's where the most important content in a slide is usually located. For the Title slide the most important content is the Title, and in Impress the Title is not located in the central position of the slide so it's not clear it is THE most relevant piece of content in this slide.
Please use standard terminology. Master slides allow to format "Title Area for AutoLayouts" and "Object Area for AutoLayouts" (and some other). There is no "subtitle" neither a layouts uses this label. In case of Impress it is important in what type of view you are, it's the Slide Sorter mode in your case. I cannot match the task of sorting slides with focus on any autolayout, whether title or content. In fact, it would block my intention to hassle-freely grab and move a slide. I'm missing the expectation. And it's always good to describe a use case like "I want to achieve <Foo> and do <Step 1> and <Step X>. But at <Step X> the workflow fails because of <Bar>. My expectation is <Qux>." It's rarely helpful to start a ticket with how competitors do a certain task. If you want a refactored MS Office, some pretty good alternatives are on the market.
This is not about a task. Nor this is about Master Slides. It is about the Title slide layout as I mentioned in comment 1.
Created attachment 178743 [details] Issues with Title slide layout explained Further clarification following Heiko's comments. This is not about Master Slides, but simply about the "Title" slide layout.
Created attachment 178744 [details] Comparison with competitor, where Title is main focus on "Title" layout opposed to Impress
Created attachment 178745 [details] Proposed update to "Title" layout
Created attachment 178746 [details] Corrected proposed update
Hope this clarifies my proposal.
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Created attachment 178779 [details] Change Title Area for AutoLayout in Title slide to this The Title slide layout should have this layout. When I change Master slide layout in Title layout, all other layouts also adopt this change.
On the "Master Slide" you define the formatting for the various elements. Title and object area are always visible, and may use different font names, colors, etc. It is possible to have more than one master slide, which is often used for different background images. Special areas additional to title and object area, like subtitle, are not defined in ODF - and IMO it makes no sense to call the content subtitle in one particular case. The master slide is not supposed to define a presentation title slide by a special configuration of autolayouts. The "Slide Layout" defines how you enter content. It's a fix number of options with or without text boxes, centered or not, etc. There is no option for title + subtitle, what comes close is Centered Text. The request would be to have title centered with some margin to top and underneath a (small) object area, also centered. Not sure that these areas not automatically expand to "full screen". Several tickets request improvements here but I'm not sure to what extent it is possible to deviate from the open document format, which probably predefines these layouts. Bug 112002 - Make presentation layouts editable Bug 132941 - Make other layouts editable in master slides, not just the "Title, content" one Bug 93087 - New layouts for LO Impress Bug 78156 - FORMATTING: RFE: Custom Slide Layouts Bug 112602 - [META] Slide Layouts content panel of the Properties deck/tab of the sidebar Bug 108363 - [META] Slide layout bugs and enhancements
Thanks for the clarification. Seems like the open document format needs some improvements for Impress.
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 112002 ***
(In reply to Pedro from comment #0) > Created attachment 178715 [details] > Notice how the subtitle occupies the center position of the slide In the Normal view, after entering a slide, the focus is on the slide area. TAB brings it to the first element. (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #15) > > *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 112002 *** I see no need to reopen this report *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 112002 ***