Bug 147948 - Visual improvements in LibreOffice - Mockups - "revolutionary, good, simple" ideas
Summary: Visual improvements in LibreOffice - Mockups - "revolutionary, good, simple" ...
Status: RESOLVED INVALID
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.4.0.0 alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
URL:
Whiteboard:
Keywords: needsUXEval
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2022-03-12 21:01 UTC by Yeron 50201
Modified: 2022-07-14 13:26 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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img1 (21.28 KB, image/png)
2022-03-12 21:02 UTC, Yeron 50201
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img2 (18.00 KB, image/png)
2022-03-12 21:03 UTC, Yeron 50201
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img3 (52.42 KB, image/png)
2022-03-12 21:04 UTC, Yeron 50201
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img4 (50.82 KB, image/png)
2022-03-12 21:05 UTC, Yeron 50201
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img5 (50.82 KB, image/png)
2022-03-12 21:06 UTC, Yeron 50201
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user interface start center (48.40 KB, image/png)
2022-03-16 19:35 UTC, Yeron 50201
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minimal_menu (41.06 KB, image/png)
2022-04-14 20:36 UTC, Yeron 50201
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Description Yeron 50201 2022-03-12 21:01:24 UTC
Description:
There are several ideas, drawings about some features that LibreOffice can have - imgs png(user interface)

Steps to Reproduce:
Each screen presents an idea, concept(mockups)

Actual Results:
Each screen presents an idea, concept(mockups)

Expected Results:
new design ui - user interface


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards
Comment 1 Yeron 50201 2022-03-12 21:02:42 UTC
Created attachment 178842 [details]
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Comment 2 Yeron 50201 2022-03-12 21:03:27 UTC
Created attachment 178843 [details]
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Comment 3 Yeron 50201 2022-03-12 21:04:08 UTC
Created attachment 178844 [details]
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Comment 4 Yeron 50201 2022-03-12 21:05:03 UTC
Created attachment 178845 [details]
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Comment 5 Yeron 50201 2022-03-12 21:06:22 UTC
Created attachment 178846 [details]
img5
Comment 6 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2022-03-14 02:23:19 UTC
These are huge undertakings and individual projects on their own, which merit separate discussions, rationales and planning. (I am quite fond of the Start Center one — Poedit and Xcode have implemented similar UIs to what you are proposing.)

I think your ideas are valid, but need fleshing out in individual enhancement requests; therefore I’m closing this bug as it doesn’t conform to the “one bug per request” principle :)

Please do feel free to develop these ideas in a personal page (i.e. user subpage) at wiki.documentfoundation.org; once they’re ready, file new bugs for each (instead of one ticket attempting to track everything). Oh, and of course do continue to interact with the Design Team on Telegram/IRC.

Thanks!
Comment 7 Heiko Tietze 2022-03-14 07:57:01 UTC
I recommend to start with a use case ("I want to achieve <Foo> by doing <Bar>. And <Baz> hinders me because of <Qux>."). It's also very important to remember the requirements (missing many features of the start center). And last but not least it would be good to compare ideas with existing suggestions (see bug 125823 and in particular bug 125217 for personalization). In case of the "Minimal Toolbar" I wonder what the difference is to the "Single Toolbar" variant.

You are welcome to join the design meeting to discuss the ideas in person, see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design > Get in Contact.
Comment 8 Yeron 50201 2022-03-14 22:24:08 UTC
Hey guys,
Thank you very much for the comments, I will clarify all doubts now. 


So this would be the minimal interface, in the minimal interface you would only have the most common buttons, I was inspired by Google Docs and I wanted to have something similar in LibreOffice, whoever came from Google Docs could really like LibreOffice Writer with this user interface option . It is very similar to existing user interfaces like Single Bar, Compact Bar, Compact Grouped Bar, Contextual Bar. Well the difference would be these 3:

The minimal bar or minimal toolbar is a bar with the following characteristic: it is a menu bar grouped in a compact, unique and contextual way. It seems to be something strange, but my idea is to take these previous ideas, or rather join the concepts of Single Bar, Compact Grouped Bar, Contextual Bar, Single Contextual Bar in a new and unique concept. This would be similar to the bar you see in Google Docs when you are editing a document.
The second feature that is very interesting is that it has a slide to the left and to the right, this is necessary to display all the menu icons always on the side. My idea here would be that the user would not need access to the above menu, he would only access the icons to perform his work normally. I think this would be a great alternative, given that some icons users are familiar with such as the text formatting icon etc. In addition, it is noticed that the user could focus only on the icons he needs to perform his work normally or better to format his text in the best possible way. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right somehow this would be my preferred user interface because it's similar to Google Docs which is something I usually use when I need to share a specific document or when most people call me to edit something on the web.
I tried to focus on the KISS idea - “Keep It Simple, Stupid” i.e. “Keep something easy, simple” in terms of design.
Another innovation, different from the previous bars is that here you could remove the icons, customize the way you think it's interesting, of course this would be an option to customize the minimum bar, by default this minimal bar would be as shown in the photo. However, if the user wants to change, he would have this option.
Comment 9 Yeron 50201 2022-03-14 22:27:16 UTC
The minimal slash interface would be a great experience for mac users using software called textedit or people who know things like google docs.
Comment 10 Yeron 50201 2022-03-14 22:28:29 UTC
It would not be necessary to make a new interface, it would only be necessary to use the existing code, the only difference is that it would have a slide from left to right.
Comment 11 Yeron 50201 2022-03-14 22:30:21 UTC
(subtitle: R = response)

This could be applied in which LibreOffice programs?
R- This could be applied in Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw, Math, Base.

Are you charging any cost, license for this idea, design?
R- No, it's free, open.

Is it your own?
R- Yes in theory, so there may be people who have already thought the same. In fact, I did some research and some users have thought of something like this in LibreOffice in the past, but I haven't found any ui - user interface material that demonstrates this idea. So, part of this idea is mine and part of it is the users, it's an initial and draft idea. However, I believe it is somehow innovative, different and unique.

How did you create the user interface?
R- Figma, Kiss.
Comment 12 Yeron 50201 2022-03-14 22:33:47 UTC
#### Notes:
1. It's just some visual suggestions or improvements I wanted to implement in LibreOffice.
2. The previous bars are not bad, what I present here is just one more option, one more user freedom, so to speak, for him (the user) to decide how to customize LibreOffice in addition to the previous menu bars.
3. When you hover the cursor over the minimal bar menu, the area where the cursor is is blue, highlighting the clickable menu, something that already happens in previous menu bars.
4. It is possible to reposition the minimal bar menu, considering that the menu can be fixed or not. That is, I can position the menu left or right - ie side(left), side(right) or I can position up or down. The default option is for the menu to be fixed upwards as shown in the photo.
5. The option to remove or add an icon is something that comes with some previous menu bars, here in the minimal bar we take advantage of this same feature, so the user can choose which icons are in the minimal menu bar.
6. In the minimal menu bar it is possible to rearrange the context menu, that menu that appears when you right-click in the document area.
7. It is possible to arrange the shortcut keys or events in the minimal menu bar.
Comment 13 Yeron 50201 2022-03-14 22:37:37 UTC
Image 2 is the evolution of image 1.
Comment 14 andreas_k 2022-03-15 18:06:39 UTC
Personalization: if we would have color scheme support, we would use it, but it only use the colors from the OS / Desktop Environment

I think there is somewhere an theme engine (done for iOS), but never used it.
Comment 15 andreas_k 2022-03-15 18:06:52 UTC
welcome page, yes nice idea, but tbh the benefit of a "redesign" from the sidebar to "tabs" is not that height to do the work.
Comment 16 andreas_k 2022-03-15 18:09:55 UTC
Minimal Toolbar is a nice idea and can be added as an extension, from my point of view. 

I can offer you help by doing it. There is also an blog post from Heiko on how to edit notebookbar files, but I don't know where.
Comment 17 Yeron 50201 2022-03-16 18:55:52 UTC
forgot to say that this open bug is related to these other bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125217,  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125823
Comment 18 Yeron 50201 2022-03-16 19:06:04 UTC
start center is inspired by eclipse ide
- it is a minimalist interface, that is, there are few clicks
Comment 20 Yeron 50201 2022-03-16 19:10:14 UTC
"start center is inspired by eclipse ide" - reference:
https://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2018/february/images/marketplace-springtools.png
Comment 21 Yeron 50201 2022-03-16 19:35:21 UTC
Created attachment 178923 [details]
user interface start center
Comment 22 Yeron 50201 2022-04-14 20:33:33 UTC
1. Here it shows a minimal menu in textedit in mac-os - you can see in the youtube video: "Using TextEdit For Casual Word Processing (MacMost Now 379)" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNCo4Jvs5Ys
2. this video references the idea I mentioned here of having a minimal menu
Comment 23 Yeron 50201 2022-04-14 20:36:17 UTC
Created attachment 179570 [details]
minimal_menu

new image minimal menu
Comment 26 Heiko Tietze 2022-07-14 13:26:40 UTC
Appreciate your dedication. The Simplified flavor of tool- or notebookbar looks nice, but I doubt many would use it. Ultimately you can already configure it. The Tabbed notebookbar modification would be a great improvement, though I'm personally on the plain header group. And stacked tabs are somewhat awkward. In the end it's quite a huge effort implementing this cross-platform.