Bug 148353 - Menu "protect structure" translation to Russian is wrong
Summary: Menu "protect structure" translation to Russian is wrong
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Localization (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.1.5.2 release
Hardware: All All
: medium normal
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Reported: 2022-04-04 09:22 UTC by Dmitry INEC
Modified: 2022-04-05 13:14 UTC (History)
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2022-04-04 09:22 UTC, Dmitry INEC
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Description Dmitry INEC 2022-04-04 09:22:08 UTC
Created attachment 179298 [details]
English menu

The structure protection menu item is workign on the whole document (Document = WorkBook = SpreadSheet), yet in the Russian translaiton it is said to only work on a single (probably the active one) sheet ( = WorkSheet <> SpreadSheet ).

See this menu in Russian: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=179160

See the hidden comments "Heiko Tietze  2022-03-28 07:01:38 UTC" and next at https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147868#c2 - this terminology really causes confusion even among devs.

I ask to

1. fix Russian translation
2. check all other localizations for a similar error
3. consider changing general UI terminology from spreadSHEET to workBOOK or Document to avoid this kind of ambiguity, especially among people with non-native Enlgish
Comment 1 Roman Kuznetsov 2022-04-04 10:30:27 UTC
ID for this string is CSTGE and I agree it should be translate to Russian as "Защитить структуру документа"

I don't think we should change EN string here, because the word "spreadsheet" is the "whole Calc document" in our small LibreOffice world
Comment 2 Dmitry INEC 2022-04-04 10:39:12 UTC
> the word "spreadsheet" is the "whole Calc document" in our small LibreOffice world

Two problems though

1) there is an outside world of OOo/LOO users

2) even in "your small world" people tend to mistake, as that Heiko's comment hint at.
Just because even a "small world" is large enough that few human beings (if any at all) have fine details of every dusty corner live in their memory.

"unambiguous by default" can be a better approach than "we can memorize all the details, and they should too"
Comment 4 Serg Bormant 2022-04-04 11:39:35 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)