Bug 148460 - IMPROVEMENT ideas for side panels (icons, collapsable)
Summary: IMPROVEMENT ideas for side panels (icons, collapsable)
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
(earliest affected) release
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
Keywords: needsUXEval
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Reported: 2022-04-08 05:52 UTC by bentusiii@yahoo.fr
Modified: 2022-04-27 11:30 UTC (History)
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Description bentusiii@yahoo.fr 2022-04-08 05:52:57 UTC
Could it be possible to show both navigator and style panels side by side or right/left side (in an advanced usage of the formatting options of the software with old style icon bars, this is major time efficient UI display, not like this "time consumer ribbon for dummies").

Steps to Reproduce:
1. display side panel docked
2. edit text with character styles
3. try to use navigator in the same time, inside the main window

Actual Results:
Since v.7.x, i have found that "navigator" can now be shown also in lateral panel but can't be docked on separated side anymore (instead it can be opened in a confusing and screen space consuming separated window).

Expected Results:
- user could move seperately each lateral panels so they can be collapsed on different side of the main window.
- the icons in the lateral pannels could be personalised such as in main toolbars (appear or not, choose which line to appear).
- user could choose which lateral pannel to activate and be visible so we can hide this space consuming latéral pannel selector icons (or collapse them).

i know this is not main development topic, but this could became very appreciate UI mod to advanced users.

Reproducible: Always

User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
plus : i had previously reported another bug (141958) about character and list styles selectors in toolbars that are showing paragraph styles to pick on instead of dedicated styles (character or list styles), so solving that aspect can help on solving lateral panel navigation and UI aspects. (please tell me how to send a picture /sketch to explain).
Comment 1 Heiko Tietze 2022-04-25 15:50:13 UTC
Do you know the View > Navigator F5 panel? You can dock it at the left side and have any other tab at the View > Sidebar Ctrl+F5.
Comment 2 bentusiii@yahoo.fr 2022-04-26 07:59:59 UTC
thanks for suggesting this. I just try it again : F5 navigator open in a separated window and cannot be docked (only tiled, but it is not so user friendly when  many windows are opened) inside LO main window in my version :
Version: / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 30(Build:2)
CPU threads: 16; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); UI: fr-FR
Calc: threaded
on Linux Manjaro with Gnome shell.

Thus, since my first report a long time ago (every thing happen in right time), i have found that navigator have been included in side panel also, that is not so bad.

Even though, it still remain a UI problem for my way of using LO writer in parallel with bug 141958 :
- before V7, i was used to work with navigator on one side panel, and paragraph/character styles list on other this panel, this is not possible anymore, and i really miss it. 
- when this was possible, it was also possible to shrink side panels in a "UI degrading way" (hidding some icons of side panels) so that working document could be displayed as widely as possible, or even working on two different documents' tiled windows displayed on the same screen, with two navigators.

Now this is not possible and make me loose a lot of time and mind concentration. 

You may understand that, if tis
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2022-04-26 08:16:38 UTC
(In reply to bentusiii@yahoo.fr from comment #2)
> F5 navigator open in a separated window and cannot be docked
See bug 113416, IIRC docking works on Windows and macOS

> - when this was possible, it was also possible to shrink side panels in a
> "UI degrading way" (hidding some icons of side panels)...

This is a wide field and we have a lot of tickets around this topic. A summary of why and what is in bug 90374.

To summarize your request: it's possible to have the Navigator in one sidebar and the Stylist in another. Docking is possible yet buggy on Linux. The (right) sidebar needs a minimum width to avoid hidden controls (you can override this with the expert option Sidebar:General:MinimumWidth, see bug 140360). Customization wont be done (it's not as flexible implemented as toolbars). => resolving WF
Comment 4 bentusiii@yahoo.fr 2022-04-27 11:30:53 UTC
thanks Heiko Tietze for your answer and details. I'll try the expert option so...