Bug 148798 - Add to list: unable to 'detected' a list directly below/or above.. you always need to place cursor in the list
Summary: Add to list: unable to 'detected' a list directly below/or above.. you always...
Status: RESOLVED INSUFFICIENTDATA
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.4.0.0 alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Bullet-Number-Outline-Lists
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Reported: 2022-04-26 08:45 UTC by Telesto
Modified: 2024-04-08 03:14 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Example file (10.11 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2022-04-26 09:19 UTC, Telesto
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Description Telesto 2022-04-26 08:45:58 UTC
Description:
Add to list: unable to 'detected' a list directly below/or above.. you always need to place cursor in the list

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open attachment 179780 [details]
2. tools -> Customize -> toolbar -> Add 'add to list' to formatting toolbar
3. Select Hello
4. Notice the 'Add to list button' being de-activated..
5. You need to read the manual about the whole CTRL click stuff. 
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.4/en-US/text/swriter/02/add_to_list.html?&DbPAR=SHARED&System=WIN


Actual Results:
The add to list is only usable after reading the manual.. although this being pretty common thing you want to do. And there could be some simple basic function to add it to existing list...

If not that what's intended, you can simply undo (same argument as for auto-correct)

Expected Results:
The buttons in the toolbar have straight away functions. However Add to list has a very specific workflow.

I kind of expect it being able to 'detect' a list directly below of above.. and simply add it there if this being the case. (without the whole CTRL+fuzz). More or less similar to Word where pressing 'numbered list' above /below existing list simply continues the list/numbering

No problem with the extra CTRL+Click & Add to list thing, but that's an addition :-). The advanced feature, IMHO.  


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
Version: 7.4.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 4659fc2f0a7223a89446edff0b77e58758b5edf5
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: en-US (nl_NL); UI: en-US
Calc: CL
Comment 1 Heiko Tietze 2022-04-26 09:01:29 UTC
Add a paragraph after Hello, eg. World - you still can add Hello to the list but need to indicate the paragraph. You can also clone the formatting (press ctrl to include the list) or apply the same list or paragraph style. Don't see how we can improve the "Add to List" expert feature. And it's clearly not a bug.
Comment 2 Telesto 2022-04-26 09:19:18 UTC
Created attachment 179781 [details]
Example file
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2022-04-26 09:33:52 UTC
(In reply to Telesto from comment #2)
> Created attachment 179781 [details]
> Example file

Hello <- add this to the list below
World
1. List
1.1. List
Comment 4 Telesto 2022-04-26 09:36:36 UTC
Slightly modified example.. (as I'm partly wrong)
1. open the attached file
2. Place cursor at 'World'
3. Press add to List button (working without CTRL+Click & expected, but kind of contrary to HELP)
4. Place cursor at 'Hello'
5. Unable the click 'add to list' 

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> Add a paragraph after Hello, eg. World - you still can add Hello to the list
> but need to indicate the paragraph.

Yes, but how is this relevant?

> You can also clone the formatting (press ctrl to include the list) 

Yes, but if the list is also heavily formatted, cloning but of risk

> or apply the same list or paragraph style.

The list isn't based on paragraph style, so this isn't working as far I can tell

> Don't see how we can improve the "Add to List" expert feature. And it's clearly > not a bug.

The behaviour in step 3 in case of bottom of the list, is what I would expect.. also for the top of the list..

The whole CTRL+CLICK 'Add to list' is the advanced feature, IMHO

I admit, I'm circling around the area of bug 36220 and bug 140579.. Except there is no 'continue numbering' button. Previously it was about letting the insert numbering button continue existing numbering (if I'm correct)
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2022-05-05 14:03:30 UTC
The topic was on the agenda of the design meeting.

"Add To List" assigns the list before to the current paragraph; having one item - the very first before the list - would make the behavior inconsistent. And using the Ctrl key modifier makes the function very flexible anyway.

The only alternative is to have two functions, "Add to List Before" and "...After", which needs to be enabled depending on the document structure. Drawback here is the complexity and the unclear default.

Recommendation is to keep state of affairs.
Comment 6 Dieter 2023-09-09 15:36:13 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> Recommendation is to keep state of affairs.

Telesto, do you agree?
=> NEEDINFO
Comment 7 QA Administrators 2024-03-08 03:15:20 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 8 QA Administrators 2024-04-08 03:14:08 UTC
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