Bug 150067 - Improve behavior of "Insert/Overwrite" in the status bar
Summary: Improve behavior of "Insert/Overwrite" in the status bar
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 92406
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
(earliest affected) alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: low enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
Keywords: needsUXEval
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Blocks: Statusbar
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Reported: 2022-07-19 20:12 UTC by TorrAB
Modified: 2022-07-27 12:40 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description TorrAB 2022-07-19 20:12:47 UTC
In a Writer window, the status bar contains a big but pretty-useless word&characterCount, and an insert|overwrite box which is useful but disappears if the edit window is not wide enough.
	This insert|overwrite (Ins|Ovr) box should ● be easy-to-see (2nd on the status bar), ● never disappear or be blank (Ins is more explicit.) The (big and superfluous) word&characterCount box could disappear from a narrow window.

Actual Results:
insert|overwrite (Ins|Ovr) box disappears from narrow window

Expected Results:
insert|overwrite (Ins|Ovr) box should always be visible

Reproducible: Always

User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
Version: (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 43e5fcfbbadd18fccee5a6f42ddd533e40151bcf
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19043; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: en-CA (en_CA); UI: en-US
Calc: CL
Comment 1 Rafael Lima 2022-07-20 14:31:47 UTC
The Insert / Overwrite section of the status bar does disappear when the window width is reduced to around 40% of the screen size (in a 1920x1080p display). The problem is that it disappears before other seemingly less important sections as the Page Style and the Word Count. Maybe it should have higher priority and remain visible, thus hiding Page Style and Word Count before hiding the Ins/Ovr.

I also agree that the "Insert" status should be visible (explicitly written to the status bar) as is the case with the "Overwrite" status. I don't know why the "Insert" status is hidden and the "Overwrite" status is explicitly written to the status bar. Both should be explicit.

BTW this is the expected behavior documented in the Writer Guide: "Insert mode: This area is blank when in Insert mode. Click to change to Overwrite mode; click again to return to Insert mode."

IMO we could do the following:
1) Make it explicit that we are in "Insert" mode in the status bar
2) Make it so this section disappears after the Page Style and Word Count sections.

I wouldn't move the Ins/Ovr section to a different position in the status bar (as suggested by the OP) because most users are used to its current position and changing it would annoy many users.

Let's hear from the UX team.
Comment 2 Timur 2022-07-20 14:41:43 UTC
There are different needs and opinions and I wouldn't support this.
Solution is bug 92406, and this should be a duplicate. 
Torr if you agree please mark, if not let's here UX.
Comment 3 Timur 2022-07-20 14:43:00 UTC
Or this may be a duplicate of bug 63361.
Comment 4 Michael Warner 2022-07-21 13:50:36 UTC
(In reply to Timur from comment #3)
> Or this may be a duplicate of bug 63361.

To me, it seems like this bug and bug 63361 are *both* duplicates of bug 92406.
Comment 5 Timur 2022-07-21 13:57:10 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 92406 ***
Comment 6 Heiko Tietze 2022-07-27 12:40:05 UTC
We changed the priority of one panel recently, think it was for bug 133265. Word count changes with selection and IIRC some kind of view mode. There is also bug 123083 for enhancement of this panel. Anyway, customization of the statusbar would be an improvement and solve this issue. DUP is fine.