Bug 150807 - Rename layouts, for example "2 Content" is not correct English
Summary: Rename layouts, for example "2 Content" is not correct English
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Impress (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.4.0.3 release
Hardware: All All
: medium minor
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: difficultyBeginner, easyHack, skillDesign, topicDesign
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Blocks: Slide-Layout
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Reported: 2022-09-05 20:00 UTC by Tuomas Hietala
Modified: 2022-09-09 08:27 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Tuomas Hietala 2022-09-05 20:00:16 UTC
Description:
Some strings in LO use the word "content" as a countable noun in strings like "Title and 2 Content". 

That's not correct English though, as "content" is an uncountable noun. Something like "2 Objects" (if that's correct) or "2 Pieces of Content" should be used instead.

There are also a few occurrences of "4 Content" and "6 Content".

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Search for "2 Content", "4 Content" and "6 Content" on Weblate in LO UI master.


Actual Results:
"2 Content", "4 Content" and "6 Content" are used in UI strings.

Expected Results:
Grammatically correct expressions are used instead.


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
"2 Content"
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/en/libo_ui-master/search/?offset=1&q=%222+Content%22&sort_by=-priority%2Cposition&checksum=

"4 Content"
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/en/libo_ui-master/search/?offset=1&q=%224+Content%22&sort_by=-priority%2Cposition&checksum=

"6 Content"
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/en/libo_ui-master/search/?offset=1&q=%226+Content%22&sort_by=-priority%2Cposition&checksum=
Comment 1 Eike Rathke 2022-09-05 20:32:33 UTC
That's in Impress in the Layouts:
Blank Slide
Title Slide
Title, Content
Title and 2 Content
...
Title, 2 Content and Content
Title, Content and 2 Content
Title, 2 Content over Content
Title, Content over Content
Title, 4 Content
Title, 6 Content
...


Probably could be
Title and 2 tiles of Content
Title, 2 tiles of Content and Content
Title, Content and 2 tiles of Content
Title, 2 tiles of Content over Content
Title, Content over Content
Title, 4 tiles of Content
Title, 6 tiles of Content

But maybe there's a better or accepted term instead of "tiles of Content"? => UX
Comment 2 Roman Kuznetsov 2022-09-06 06:54:25 UTC
My PoV:

1. Delete the tooltips for slide layouts in Sidebar
2. Add icons with layouts views instead the labels into main menu Slide->Layout
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2022-09-06 07:52:42 UTC
(In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from comment #2)
> 1. Delete the tooltips for slide layouts in Sidebar

These labels are also used at the menu Slide > Layout.

(In reply to Eike Rathke from comment #1)
> Probably could be
> Title ... tiles of Content

Sounds good to me. What do you think, Tuomas? 

We should take care of the title style case and numbers should be written as word until 11 (searching for a reference I found 9 for English in [1]).

[1] https://canvas.hull.ac.uk/courses/213/pages/writing-numbers
Comment 4 Roman Kuznetsov 2022-09-06 08:02:30 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> (In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from comment #2)
> > 1. Delete the tooltips for slide layouts in Sidebar
> 
> These labels are also used at the menu Slide > Layout.
> 

Yes and I suggested delete it too and use icons instead (did you read my message after 1 item?) =)
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2022-09-06 08:18:36 UTC
(In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from comment #4)
> Yes and I suggested delete it too and use icons instead...

Icon-only menu items? And probably hard to read with 16px ;-)
Comment 6 Eike Rathke 2022-09-07 08:35:41 UTC
(In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from comment #2)
> 1. Delete the tooltips for slide layouts in Sidebar
> 2. Add icons with layouts views instead the labels into main menu
> Slide->Layout
Both bad a11y-wise.
Comment 7 Tuomas Hietala 2022-09-08 09:06:02 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> (In reply to Eike Rathke from comment #1)
> > Probably could be
> > Title ... tiles of Content
> 
> Sounds good to me. What do you think, Tuomas? 

Sounds good to me, too.
Comment 8 QA Administrators 2022-09-09 03:54:25 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 9 Heiko Tietze 2022-09-09 08:27:36 UTC
Let's follow Eike's idea in comment 1 and add just "tiles of" to the strings.

Code pointer: 

sd/inc/strings.hrc
officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/DrawImpressCommands.xcu

sd/source/filter/eppt/pptx-epptooxml.cxx (unclear how this needs to be aligned with the UI strings; suspicious code anyway)