Bug 152624 - LIST STYLES: Numbered Lists in LibreOffice Writer
Summary: LIST STYLES: Numbered Lists in LibreOffice Writer
Status: RESOLVED NOTABUG
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.3.7.2 release
Hardware: All Windows (All)
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
URL:
Whiteboard:
Keywords: needsUXEval
Depends on:
Blocks: Bullet-Number-Outline-Lists
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Reported: 2022-12-20 22:34 UTC by John La Fountain
Modified: 2023-01-12 14:51 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Crash report or crash signature:


Attachments
LibreOffice .odt file with a bulleted list followed by numbered lists (40.02 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2023-01-03 16:21 UTC, John La Fountain
Details

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Description John La Fountain 2022-12-20 22:34:03 UTC
Description:
In LibreOffice Writer, I highlighted five text lines to make a numbered a list.  I make the new numbered list, but also all the separate lists below in the text are renumbered to be in sequence with the new list numbers.  I did not highlight the lists below and they are each separated by unformated text.  So why are they considered part of the new list in terms of sequence numbers?

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Highlighted the five unformated text lines with the mouse.
2. Right clicked, clicked List from the options, & clicked Numbering123ListStyle. 
3.

Actual Results:
New List:
    1. Requirements
    2. Tasks and their subtasks
    3. Actual user
    4. Importance to user words/feedback
    5. Breaking user stories for larger requirements

... (some unformated text) ...
Next Existing List:
    6. Independent – Not dependent on other.
    7. Negotiable – Includes the important avoid contract.
    8. Valuable – Provide value to customer.
    9. Estimable – It should be estimated.
    10. Small – It should be simple and small not complex.
    11. Testable – It should be evaluated by pre-written acceptance criteria.


Expected Results:
New List:
    1. Requirements
    2. Tasks and their subtasks
    3. Actual user
    4. Importance to user words/feedback
    5. Breaking user stories for larger requirements

... (some unformated text) ...
Next Existing List:
    1. Independent – Not dependent on other.
    2. Negotiable – Includes the important avoid contract.
    3. Valuable – Provide value to customer.
    4. Estimable – It should be estimated.
    5. Small – It should be simple and small not complex.
    6. Testable – It should be evaluated by pre-written acceptance criteria.



Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
Leave the numbering of the unselected lists below unchanged.

Version: 7.3.7.2 (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: e114eadc50a9ff8d8c8a0567d6da8f454beeb84f
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 22000; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: en-US (en_US); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 1 Dieter 2022-12-30 08:52:17 UTC
Thank you for reporting the bug. Could you please ad a minimum test file. this makes it easier to verify the bug. Thank you.
=> NEEDINFO
Comment 2 Dieter 2023-01-03 08:04:52 UTC
John, thank you for the docment, you've sent me in private. Am I allowed to attach it here, so somebody else can use it for testing?

I can't confirm the problem with your file and
Version: 7.5.0.1 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 77cd3d7ad4445740a0c6cf977992dafd8ebad8df
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19045; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB
Calc: CL threaded

I've opened the document and every list starts with 1.

So please test in Safe Mode (Help -> Restart in Safe Mode) to make sure, that the problem is not related to a corrupted user profile.
If that doesn't solve the problem please try with a more recent version of LO (at least 7.4.4) and give feedback
=> NEEDINFO
Comment 3 John La Fountain 2023-01-03 16:21:39 UTC
Created attachment 184461 [details]
LibreOffice .odt file with a bulleted list followed by numbered lists


Tue Jan 03, 02022, at 11:20 AM ET
Dieter,
The first list in the attached file is a bulleted list under Writing User Stories.  This is the one which I try to change to a numbered list.

You can pass the attached document to anyone you want,
Thanks,
John L
Comment 4 QA Administrators 2023-01-04 03:19:39 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 5 raal 2023-01-05 19:13:47 UTC
No repro with Version: 7.6.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: d993327eab0a2c9c8820c6528075b01de68b0ec6
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: x11
Locale: cs-CZ (cs_CZ.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 6 Dieter 2023-01-11 07:52:31 UTC
I confirm behaviour with

Version: 7.5.0.1 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 77cd3d7ad4445740a0c6cf977992dafd8ebad8df
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19045; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB
Calc: CL threaded

Steps:
1. Open attachment 184461 [details]
2. Select bulleted list
3. In list styles select Numbering 123

Actual and expected result
Bulleted list becomes numbered list ans a part of the following numbered list with the same style
=> RESOLVED NOTABUG

Additional information
If you want the following list becomes a seperate list, set cursor in first line of that list -> context menu -> list -> Restart Numbering
Comment 7 John La Fountain 2023-01-11 14:51:12 UTC
Dieter,
The numbered list below the bulleted list is in a completely separate paragraph.  There's no way I want these lists to be considered to related.  Each list is related to its own "section".  I only highlighted the bulleted list, so why should my numbering it affect an unrelated list.  What if I hadn't noticed the change?  If so, I would have messed up my document without even knowing.

I consider this behavior is a bug, not a feature!
John L.
Comment 8 Dieter 2023-01-11 20:22:47 UTC
(In reply to John La Fountain from comment #7)
 I consider this behavior is a bug, not a feature!
> John L.

Couldn't find informations in LO Help or Writer Guide. So let's change back to UNCONFIRMED and ask design-team for their input and decision.
Comment 9 John La Fountain 2023-01-11 20:36:39 UTC
Dieter,
Thanks!
John L.
Comment 10 Heiko Tietze 2023-01-12 09:31:12 UTC
(In reply to John La Fountain from comment #7)
> The numbered list below the bulleted list is in a completely separate
> paragraph.  There's no way I want these lists to be considered to related. 

Lists are attributes of paragraphs. The ordered (aka numbered) list "Independent...Testable" uses / has assigned the list style "Numbering 123". Paragraphs using this list style increase the number (unless restarted manually). So if you change the unordered (aka bullet) list to use the same list style it is added to the beginning.

You can a) restart the list (context menu > List > Restart Numbering) or b) use a different list style (could be just a duplicate of Numbering 123). Btw, using the toolbar icon "Toggle ordered list" creates a new list on-the-fly and you struggle with the continuation (the context menu offers "Add to List" though limited on the previous paragraph).

In a nutshell, it is a desired feature.
Comment 11 Heiko Tietze 2023-01-12 09:32:24 UTC
Btw: as you are working with styles, the sidebar has a tab Styles Inspector, which gives you some insights on the hierarchy of style attributes.
Comment 12 John La Fountain 2023-01-12 14:47:29 UTC
Heiko,
This "desired feature" is not desired by me.  The default numbered list style should only only affect the list I highlight and no other list.  It's not intuitive to me that other lists in other sections that I don't highlight should be affected!  The burden then is up to me if my numbering action had this unwanted side effect.

I don't want to have to create new styles to overcome unintuitive behaviors of default styles.
John L.
Comment 13 Heiko Tietze 2023-01-12 14:51:14 UTC
(In reply to John La Fountain from comment #12)
> I don't want to have to create new styles to overcome unintuitive behaviors
> of default styles.

You should use the "Toggle Ordered List" command in this case.