Bug 154010 - Show dragged object boundaries on ruler while dragging
Summary: Show dragged object boundaries on ruler while dragging
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Impress (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
Inherited From OOo
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsUXEval
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Blocks: Rulers Drag-and-Drop
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Reported: 2023-03-06 14:13 UTC by Eyal Rozenberg
Modified: 2023-03-07 11:23 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Screenshot of helplines in Writer (16.46 KB, image/png)
2023-03-06 21:25 UTC, Regina Henschel
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Description Eyal Rozenberg 2023-03-06 14:13:13 UTC
When dragging an object from its place and before it is placed in its final position, we see its shape moving around with the mouse. However - we don't see the projection of the moved shape on the ruler. We _should_ see it, because that helps us place it more accurately: The (horizontal and vertical) rulers should display either a shaded range, or the boundaries, of the object being dragged.
Comment 1 V Stuart Foote 2023-03-06 16:54:43 UTC
Any reason the 'Helplines While Moving' is insufficient to task?  Can already be exposed with grid and snap grid, and the guides extend to rulers (horizontal and vertical) when shown.  

The object guides do not affect the ruler layout until the Shape's text element has edit cursor focus. And the ruler will respond.

Don't gain much for the effort to "show" object edges directly on the ruler.  Likewise object center as requested for bug 154015
Comment 2 Eyal Rozenberg 2023-03-06 19:22:48 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1)
> Any reason the 'Helplines While Moving' is insufficient to task?

Very often there are no relevant help-lines.


>  Can
> already be exposed with grid and snap grid, and the guides extend to rulers
> (horizontal and vertical) when shown.  

I'm not sure I follow this sentence.

> The object guides do not affect the ruler layout until the Shape's text
> element has edit cursor focus. And the ruler will respond.

I'm not sure what you mean here also. How does this issue relate to editing?

> Don't gain much for the effort to "show" object edges directly on the ruler.

They are _already_ shown - except that only the original object boundaries/edges are shown.

You gain about the same from showing the new boundaries as from showing the old boundaries. Which is letting the user consider the positions on each axis independently of the other axes.

If Impress or Draw let you create rules by dragging from the rulers (do we have a bug for that feature?), then the benefit would be more limited, but we're not there. I find I'm missing this when positioning objects.
Comment 3 Regina Henschel 2023-03-06 21:25:34 UTC
Created attachment 185802 [details]
Screenshot of helplines in Writer

(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #0)
> When dragging an object from its place and before it is placed in its final
> position, we see its shape moving around with the mouse. However - we don't
> see the projection of the moved shape on the ruler.

Do you have enabled "Helplines While Moving"?

(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #2)
> (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1)
> > Any reason the 'Helplines While Moving' is insufficient to task?
> 
> Very often there are no relevant help-lines.
>

Please specify the situations, where you do not get helplines. I do not have problems getting helplines.
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2023-03-07 11:23:28 UTC
Helplines are efficient to position objects with some accuracy. To achieve pixel-perfect positioning you need to enter exact values anyway. => WF (actually WFM as helplines do the trick)