Bug 159055 - Keyboard shortcuts to open the side toolbar prevent the use of keyboard shortcuts for special characters
Summary: Keyboard shortcuts to open the side toolbar prevent the use of keyboard short...
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 158112
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
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7.6.4.1 release
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64) Windows (All)
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Reported: 2024-01-07 16:23 UTC by Oscar Dubreil
Modified: 2024-01-19 09:42 UTC (History)
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Description Oscar Dubreil 2024-01-07 16:23:21 UTC
Description:
I usually use keybord shortcut like Alt+0201 to write the "É" character. With the new update these shortcuts directly open the side toolbar, for example Alt+2 opens the Styles toolbar and I can no longer write special characters. 

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open LibreOffice Writer
2. Press Alt + 0201
3.

Actual Results:
Opens side toolbar

Expected Results:
"É" character


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: Yes

Additional Info:
Version: 7.6.4.1 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: e19e193f88cd6c0525a17fb7a176ed8e6a3e2aa1
CPU threads: 12; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 22621; UI render: Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win
Locale: fr-FR (fr_FR); UI: fr-FR
Calc: CL threaded
Comment 1 LeroyG 2024-01-07 16:39:21 UTC
You can disable the undesired shortcuts. Not a bug for me.

Instead use c9 and Alt+X. It's a cross-platform feature.

See https://www.unicode.org/charts/charindex.html
Comment 2 Oscar Dubreil 2024-01-09 14:05:22 UTC
(In reply to LeroyG from comment #1)
> You can disable the undesired shortcuts. Not a bug for me.
> 
> Instead use c9 and Alt+X. It's a cross-platform feature.
> 
> See https://www.unicode.org/charts/charindex.html

Concerning the undisered shortcuts, I tried to modify them but it seems it can't be done because when I go to the specified menu, Alt+0-9 aren't assigned to any function, that's why I see that as a bug.


Thanks for the unicode shortcuts, I didn't know about those. I guess I'll have to learn those if the bug isn't fixed.

(Please pardon my English, I'm not a native speaker)
Comment 3 Buovjaga 2024-01-18 18:37:16 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 158112 ***
Comment 4 Mike Kaganski 2024-01-19 04:07:47 UTC
(In reply to Oscar Dubreil from comment #2)
> Concerning the undisered shortcuts, I tried to modify them but it seems it
> can't be done because when I go to the specified menu, Alt+0-9 aren't
> assigned to any function, that's why I see that as a bug.

Please notice how this Alt+Number issue highlighted the usability problem in the dialog. Multiple users struggle with it, not realizing that there are several groups of shortcuts - managed by the radiobutton group on the top right corner; they suppose that the shortcuts shown to them initially is the exhaustive list.

I suppose, it has an own bug report; but it needs attention IMO. There may be different approaches - e.g., using tabs. My preferred variant would be a new column in the list, with drop-down controls, where one could choose the scope of the shortcut.
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2024-01-19 09:21:06 UTC
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #4)
> My preferred variant would be a new column in the list, with drop-down controls,
> where one could choose the scope of the shortcut.
Sounds wrong to me to have different path for customization. We have a lot hard-coded shortcuts that need more attention than the sidebar decks.
Comment 6 Mike Kaganski 2024-01-19 09:42:29 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> Sounds wrong to me to have different path for customization. We have a lot
> hard-coded shortcuts that need more attention than the sidebar decks.

I might be unclear: I was not talking about these Alt-shortcuts; I meant the whole "LibreOffice-wide shortcuts vs. Writer-local shortcuts discoverability" problem.