Bug 160112 - Placement of I-Beam pointer before editing
Summary: Placement of I-Beam pointer before editing
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 97757
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
24.2.1.2 release
Hardware: All Linux (All)
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsUXEval
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2024-03-09 05:46 UTC by Juergen
Modified: 2024-03-28 03:27 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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How to set up it with Windows 11 (69.73 KB, image/png)
2024-03-09 12:44 UTC, m_a_riosv
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Description Juergen 2024-03-09 05:46:03 UTC
Description:
this is something that bothers me since long editing texts.
Presently when I click into a text to edit, the I-Beam pointer stays on the point of insertion and distorts the view. However, when I point there one can assume that I want to work there! Ideally the pointer would jump away 2 centimetre to clear the view. 
Version: 7.6.5.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 60(Build:2)
CPU threads: 16; OS: Linux 6.5; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: de-DE (en_GB.UTF-8); UI: de-DE
Ubuntu package version: 4:7.6.5-0ubuntu0.22.04.1~lo1
Calc: threaded

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Point your I/beam pointer into a text
2. 
3.

Actual Results:
The view on the characters to be edited are hampered by the pointer 

Expected Results:
After placing the pointer I would like to be able to see where I edit clealry


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
Ideally the pointer would jump away 2 centimetre to clear the view.
Comment 1 m_a_riosv 2024-03-09 12:44:35 UTC
Created attachment 193037 [details]
How to set up it with Windows 11

Please paste here the information on Menu/Help/About LibreOffice (There is an icon to copy)
Comment 2 Juergen 2024-03-09 18:39:15 UTC
(In reply to m_a_riosv from comment #1)
> Created attachment 193037 [details]
> How to set up it with Windows 11
> 
> Please paste here the information on Menu/Help/About LibreOffice (There is
> an icon to copy)

Hi m_a_riosv,
I don't think your screenshot has anything to do with the topic. I have already increased the I-beam. It is clearly visible. The point is that it distorts the editing point.
Comment 3 m_a_riosv 2024-03-09 21:21:13 UTC
As you like.
Comment 4 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2024-03-26 14:26:37 UTC
Which desktop environment are you using, Juergen? I assume GNOME?

I am using Ubuntu 22.04 + GNOME 42.9, and when I click on text, the cursor changes to a pointer (unless I move again, in which case it's again an I-beam cursor).

Do you know of other applications that automatically move the cursor out of the way when clicking into text?
I feel like I've never seen this kind of behaviour, and that if it existed, it should be an OS / Desktop Environment setting.

What do you think about auto-hiding the cursor when typing? That's requested in bug 97757.
Comment 5 Juergen 2024-03-27 22:22:25 UTC
(In reply to Stéphane Guillou (stragu) from comment #4)
> Which desktop environment are you using, Juergen? I assume GNOME?
> 
> I am using Ubuntu 22.04 + GNOME 42.9, and when I click on text, the cursor
> changes to a pointer (unless I move again, in which case it's again an
> I-beam cursor).
> 
> Do you know of other applications that automatically move the cursor out of
> the way when clicking into text?
> I feel like I've never seen this kind of behaviour, and that if it existed,
> it should be an OS / Desktop Environment setting.
> 
> What do you think about auto-hiding the cursor when typing? That's requested
> in bug 97757.

Hi Stéphane Guillou,
I don't any other application where the I-beam goes out of the way while typing. Not sure this needs to be implemented on the OS level, although it would be applicable wherever somebody types like right now this comment, emails and above all long texts for word processing.
I think auto-hiding the cursor while typing would work. Didn't think about it! The whole point is, that the mouse-pointer is out of the way once a user starts typing.
Unfortunately the suggested enhancement 97757 is from 2016-02-11 an not implemented. That is a loooooooong time ago.
Comment 6 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2024-03-28 03:07:48 UTC
Thank you.
I think a pointer jumping to a different location is a lot more unexpected and unpredictable than the "disappear while typing" solution.

For Ubuntu, you might already find some solutions, for example xbanish: https://askubuntu.com/questions/361203/how-can-i-make-the-mouse-cursor-hide-itself-when-typing

Let's mark as duplicate of bug 97757. Yes, enhancement requests and bug reports do linger around for a while, but the more duplicates they have, the more attention they get.

UX/Design: we can discuss further in bug 97757 if this should be a LibreOffice setting or if it should be left to the OS/DE to provide.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 97757 ***
Comment 7 QA Administrators 2024-03-28 03:13:12 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 8 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2024-03-28 03:27:43 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 97757 ***