Bug 160230 - MRU Recent files list entries numbered, no need to be
Summary: MRU Recent files list entries numbered, no need to be
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
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Inherited From OOo
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Keywords: needsUXEval
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Blocks: Recent-Document-List
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Reported: 2024-03-16 15:34 UTC by peter josvai
Modified: 2024-04-02 09:45 UTC (History)
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Description peter josvai 2024-03-16 15:34:59 UTC
hi,

Those numbers have no significance, no actual meaning.
However, if you're documents happen to have (because of chapter numbers) 
some numerals at the beginning, a pretty number craziness could come about..
:) 

just saying


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Comment 1 BogdanB 2024-03-16 18:31:55 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 2 BogdanB 2024-03-16 18:33:43 UTC
Confirm. Numbers seems useless.

Version: 24.8.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: d097dbc8688b32e7865eca3baab1dd406c306441
CPU threads: 16; OS: Linux 6.5; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: ro-RO (ro_RO.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 3 V Stuart Foote 2024-03-16 22:09:33 UTC
Yes, don't see much point to numbering the MRU. It is not like there is a keyboard means to open a specific entry directly using its number, rather just keyboard cursor movements or mouse pointer and click. The numbering is not helpful.

+1 to purge the numbering.
Comment 4 V Stuart Foote 2024-03-16 22:26:20 UTC
Oh, wait!

In fact the numbered entries are picked up as accelerator mnemonics for their respective documents. Opening the main File -> Recent Documents each "numbered" document can be keyboard opened via its number.

But only working for documents 1 - 9. Doesn't work for 2 digit entries.

I guess either fix that to reach the full MRU listing, or strip out the numbering.
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2024-03-18 09:54:20 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4)
> I guess either fix that to reach the full MRU listing, or strip out the
> numbering.

Or keep as it is.
Comment 6 Eyal Rozenberg 2024-03-21 08:32:01 UTC
> Those numbers have no significance, no actual meaning.

Isn't it the order of recency? That could help the user remember which document is which.

(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4)
> But only working for documents 1 - 9.

That's good enough. The 10th most recent document? Not super interesting.

Anyway, I say keep this.
Comment 7 Cor Nouws 2024-03-27 19:47:40 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4)
> Oh, wait!
> 
> In fact the numbered entries are picked up as accelerator mnemonics for
> their respective documents. Opening the main File -> Recent Documents each
> "numbered" document can be keyboard opened via its number.
Yep - used over here :)

> But only working for documents 1 - 9. Doesn't work for 2 digit entries.
> 
> I guess either fix that to reach the full MRU listing, or strip out the
> numbering.
Do you suggest to have Alt-15 to open the 15th in the list? ;)
Comment 8 V Stuart Foote 2024-03-27 20:33:14 UTC
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #7)
> (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4)
> > Oh, wait!
> > 
> > In fact the numbered entries are picked up as accelerator mnemonics for
> > their respective documents. Opening the main File -> Recent Documents each
> > "numbered" document can be keyboard opened via its number.
> Yep - used over here :)
> 
> > But only working for documents 1 - 9. Doesn't work for 2 digit entries.
> > 
> > I guess either fix that to reach the full MRU listing, or strip out the
> > numbering.
> Do you suggest to have Alt-15 to open the 15th in the list? ;)

Just inconsistent. Alt 1-9, and 0 for the 10th are each given an "accelerator" underlining, and respond. 

But for the 11th to 25th entries (of the default MRU list), no accelerator action. 

Just the single digit entries at the top of the list stack.

And now with ability to "pin" documents to the top of the MRU, any of those documents will remain with the 1-9,0 numbered accelerators.

So actually the accelerators we have are pretty functional, and significant. ;-)
Comment 9 Heiko Tietze 2024-04-02 09:45:26 UTC
We discussed the topic in the design meeting.

The numbers are handy for a11y resp. keyboard only access, they indicate some recency, and mnemonics inside the filename are hard to spot.
As an alternative we could go with alphanumeric characters A..Z, which might fails for some localizations.

We decided in the end to keep the numbers.